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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#124951: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:07:53 AM

[up]What does Hippocrates have to do with any of this?

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Superdark33 The dark Mage of the playground from Playgrounds and Adventures Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
The dark Mage of the playground
#124952: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:21:43 AM

Meant to refer to Hippos, Happy Hippos. They hold a high place in my favourite Ferrero candies list.

SNESMaster5 Since: Oct, 2015
#124953: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:42:09 AM

I'd like to not be part of the conversation from this point on, a big reason I try not to post much is that if I get into any serious debate about something I get a compulsive need to check for updates and anxiety over anticipation of bad results, so I'd like to just exit from this topic.

desdendelle Hooded Crow from Land of Milk and Honey (Sergeant) Relationship Status: Hiding
Hooded Crow
#124954: Jun 7th 2016 at 3:52:49 AM

[up] Nobody's keeping you here, mate. Also, recommendation for life: thick skin. It's useful.

On empty crossroads, seek the eclipse -- for when Sol and Lua align, the lost shall find their way home.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#124955: Jun 7th 2016 at 5:22:09 AM

(Wash Post) The ‘big price’ Paul Ryan has paid for supporting Donald Trump

Ryan is only backing Trump because he believes Trump will sign off on the Ryan House Agenda. And it's not going so well, that whole support thing.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#124956: Jun 7th 2016 at 5:29:22 AM

I find it somewhat noteworthy that the Trump coverage lately has entirely revolved around the Trump University scam and his comments about Curiel. For a while it seemed like the GOP was warming up to him, and some people were speculating he may become more "presidential". I am guessing these people (and Ryan) were deluding themselves into thinking Trump could somehow become a good candidate.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124957: Jun 7th 2016 at 5:32:40 AM

Yeah, there has been this notion that, once nominated, Trump would "pivot" and start acting like a Presidential candidate instead of a schoolyard bully. Which was obviously ludicrous, but the establishment will do anything it can to convince itself that it has a respectable candidate.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#124958: Jun 7th 2016 at 6:02:06 AM

Fixing himself so doggedly to it is the exact opposite of Clinton's approach to her email issue, where she tries to deflect where she can, admitting she made a mistake without admitting anything close to wrongdoing. Trump makes it front and center and casts the forces moving against him as enemies. Imagine what they would say about Clinton if she had gone after Trey Gowdy half as heard as Trump is going after this Curiel guy.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124959: Jun 7th 2016 at 6:16:28 AM

It would be hilarious if she insisted Gowdy recuse himself because he's a man casting judgment on a woman.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#124960: Jun 7th 2016 at 6:56:24 AM

[up] Sean Hannity might actually explode on air.

Let's also be frank about something: In all likelihood Trump is going to put his foot in his mouth sooner or later. Clinton has figured out how to attack the guy as his ego is so ridiculously fragile he can't take serious challenges and has gone off twice now to ads hitting him from the Clinton campaign.

I think it's really only a matter of time until he says something sexist as all hell that his base may love but won't play well with the rest of the country.

edited 7th Jun '16 6:59:43 AM by Lightysnake

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124961: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:00:25 AM

"A matter of time"? Which rock have you been living under? [lol]

The question is: will any horrifically sexist or racist statement from Trump sufficiently alienate the right-wing media that they stop fawning over him? It's already started with the Curiel mess, and we have five months to go before the general election!

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#124962: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:01:50 AM

I think it's been noted that Clinton has two big advantages in her ability to attack Trump. The first is that Clinton can directly attack his policies (or lack thereof) in a way the Republicans couldn't in the primaries without being hypocrites or alternating the base.

The other is that Trump has repeatedly floundered when attacking female opposition. Made me think if the Evil Can Not Comprehend Good trope in that he has an understanding that insulting women is viewed as wrong, but is unable to fathom why that is so, and he gets consistently tripped up as a result.

Also re: e judge thing, there's a Discworld quote, I think from Thud that describes the law as one size fits all. If i can find the exact one I'll post it.

edited 7th Jun '16 7:04:38 AM by sgamer82

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#124963: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:03:38 AM

Yes, both things have been noted here. I did make a post about the gender aspect a while ago.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#124964: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:06:52 AM

[up][up][up] Hahaha, touche. I meant when the general campaign really gets going and Trump has to be 'presidential.' I don't think he can do anything to really make himself persona non grata to the right.

Except lose, of course, at which point he will be a RINO fake conservative.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124965: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:10:12 AM

Trump couldn't be "Presidential" if his life depended on it. He's already promised a pivot in that regard and it lasted about five minutes.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#124966: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:10:54 AM

[up][up]He's already considered a RINO by many, which is why satisfaction rates with him are so low.

edited 7th Jun '16 7:10:59 AM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#124967: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:11:13 AM

Thought we'd all get a good laugh out of these comments from comic writer Dan Jurgens.

Interviewer: Though I'm Canadian, I follow American politics quite closely. Maybe it's due to the extreme media exposure that he generates, but does it make sense that I am getting a Donald Trump-like vibe from Lex Luthor in this issue?

Jurgens: Well, if you're picking up on that because Luthor appears to follow his own dictates, listens to no one and seems bent on trying to convince the world he's deserving of a loftier stance than anything ever truly earned, who am I to argue? [Laughs]

@SNES

When people in this forum start telling Sanders supporters to kill themselves, you can claim we're as bad as the Bernie Bros. I've had friends who've been subjected to death threats over support for Clinton and I'm in goddamn Canada. As to the notion that "Bernie Bro" is a veiled insult and they don't exist, I'm gonna quote an article I liked on the subject: "If you mention the Bernie Bros online, fifty people fitting the profile pop up with abusive comments informing you that they don’t exist."

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#124968: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:11:32 AM

Precisely why I'm less worried about him than Sanders and his movement coming on board. beating Trump is great, but he gives the Democrats the best chance to take back Congress.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#124970: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:32:21 AM

@Ambar: Actual death threats or the usual Internet Tough Guy routine that has, to the best of my knowledge, never actually been followed through with?

edited 7th Jun '16 7:32:29 AM by CaptainCapsase

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#124971: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:36:38 AM

[up][up] Nice, though not the one I was thinking of. The quote was made by Vimes in response to Carrot's questioning the wisdom of pairing dwarf and troll watchmen when racial tension was high, so definitely Thud. Vimes basically pointed out the obvious folly in having a race policed solely be members of that race, if I'm remembering it right..

edited 7th Jun '16 7:38:00 AM by sgamer82

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
The would-be novelist
#124972: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:37:48 AM

edited 7th Jun '16 7:38:20 AM by flameboy21th

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#124973: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:39:01 AM

[up][up][up] That's one of the worst ways to counter that argument. "Sure, there've been death threats but nobody's actually followed through on them!"

...is that really the argument anyone wants to make?

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#124974: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:39:01 AM

Thought I'd link to Rachel Maddow's conversation with Clinton from last night.

By the way, if Sanders doesn't concede within the next couple days, the "Clinton didn't concede until late either" comparisons will be over. She conceded 8 years ago today.

@Caspase

You realize that based on the criteria you just set no one can be sure anything is an actual death threat until they've been shot at, right?

edited 7th Jun '16 7:51:17 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#124975: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:40:56 AM

Death threats, regardless of intent to follow through, are still legally a form of assault in most states.

Oh really when?

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