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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Democratic Party of United States vs Wisconsin.[1]
Basically, the DNC wanted Wisconsin to change its open primary to a closed primary. Wisconsin took them to the Supreme Court, and ever since then states have been allowed to pick their system.
edited 5th Jun '16 9:07:42 AM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.Interesting look at the Hispanic vote in the Democratic primaries thus far
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decentralised? It's incredibly centralised and state controlled, it being local government over federal governed doesn't mean it's not a huge case of government overreach.
It's also a good look at polling methods and how foolish the lumping in of Hispanics with blacks is.
edited 5th Jun '16 9:06:39 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's neither, Hispanics are split roughly 50-50, older Hispanics go to Clinton and younger ones to Sanders. Hispanics states are pulling for Clinton by a margin because whites are pulling for Clinton by a margin, and blacks are by a large margin.
Asian Americans? Nobody knows how they're gonna vote, and they're about to be very important.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
X4 Are South Asians a significant minority in the US? My understanding is that in a political context "Asian Americans" means East Asians, the same way that "Asians" generally means South Asians in the UK.
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South Asia is a fairly ambiguous term; it could potentially refer to India for example, and Indian Americans are an established minority in the US. As for Indochina, yes, there are a decent number of people from that region in the US, far fewer than east Asians, but not completely absent.
Alternatively, since the nominee is generally running uncontested at this point in the race, election officials in the late primaries tend to cut corners.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:16:44 PM by CaptainCapsase
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Given that Sanders or his supporters have accused seemingly every primary he doesn't win of being rigged, I somehow doubt that.
The man lost. He ran a less than competent campaign that spent money like water but couldn't reach the voters he wanted to. It's not because of a conspiracy.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:18:42 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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Considering he started out with pretty much no supporters outside of Vermont running against a political juggernaut like Clinton, I don't think it's fair to call the campaign incompetent. Doomed from the start perhaps, but it's mobilized a sizable number of people, definitely more than the initial projection of a 15% national ceiling by 538 and others.
It's not as pronounced as it was for the GOP, but the democratic establishment seems more than the little shaken by this primary; candidates like Sanders (ie Howard Dean) aren't supposed to win any contests, they're supposed to poll reasonably well for a month leading up to the primary, than totally collapse and get ~5% of the vote in the early primaries.
I've heard it used both for the Indo-China region and for the Indian subcontinent.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:39:06 PM by CaptainCapsase
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Yeah, Clinton was supposed to be the sure thing, and she didn't have like a dozen people running against her in the Democratic Primary since outside of Sanders it was just Martin O'Malley who just felt like token competition to the expected crowning of Clinton. Heck, Sanders isn't even a Democrat and still did amazingly well against what was to be a sure thing with Clinton. Sanders must've run a very competent primary campaign.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:39:53 PM by GameGuruGG
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That's not something any is ever actually going to say in real life, though.
That might be attributing too much to him and not enough to his supporters. People can run things inefficiently and still get lucky. I don't know the details but in the end, he's still losing by a wide-margin.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:41:31 PM by LSBK
He's losing by a wide margin, but he shouldn't have been able to get more than 15% of the vote, if even that much. He's got around 45%, which is still a decisive loss, but vastly exceeded the initial expectations. He definitely ran a better social media campaign than Clinton, and Clinton utterly failed to connect with youth voters.
edited 5th Jun '16 12:44:45 PM by CaptainCapsase

Why do state governments get to tell local political parties how to decide their delegates?
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran