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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#124502: Jun 3rd 2016 at 1:51:15 PM

Plus it's practically a tradition that every President gets a recession at the end of their administration.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#124503: Jun 3rd 2016 at 2:16:28 PM

[up] That's a great way for an opposition party to get into power. Not desirable in this situation.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#124504: Jun 3rd 2016 at 3:47:29 PM

Main Concerns if memory serves:

  • The Chinese Government fucks up their slowdown of their country's growth, letting it fall out from under itself as it goes to 2% or less inflation.
  • The Fed keeps trying to up interest rates with no reason to do so other than "The economy looks vaguely healthy enough to support it".
  • Brexit causes a chain reaction of economic disaster (especially with London being the New York/Wall Street of Europe)
  • There's currently issues with Rental Property and Automotive Loan speculation similar to the Housing Bubble from what I remember.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#124505: Jun 3rd 2016 at 4:32:16 PM

The Texas Attorney General's Office, under now-Governor Greg Abbott, had dropped a lawsuit back in 2010 against Trump University after the scam agreed to cease operations in the state.

edited 3rd Jun '16 4:32:41 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#124507: Jun 3rd 2016 at 5:23:13 PM

(Boston Globe) Reid reviewing scenarios for filling Senate seat if Warren is VP pick

I really. Really. Hope she turns down the job.

edited 3rd Jun '16 5:23:31 PM by PotatoesRock

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#124508: Jun 3rd 2016 at 5:27:09 PM

Trump doubles down on judge attacks: 'He's a Mexican. We're building a wall'.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#124509: Jun 3rd 2016 at 6:07:28 PM

[up][up][up]

Wow... that's not even half as tactful as Some of My Best Friends Are X.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#124510: Jun 3rd 2016 at 6:59:22 PM

To give Trump his due credit, every time we think we have enough reasons to not vote for him, we get stuff like "This judge is of Mexican heritage. We're building a wall.". When I hear people are willingly supporting Trump the two thoughts that always occur to me are either:

  1. You have heard him speak, right?
  2. Is this really the man you want to essentially be the face of the United States of America?

I honestly don't know what I find more disturbing. The idea that he genuinely believes what he says with this kind of stuff, the idea that he's only saying it because he thinks it's what will get him elected, or (going by the Republicans' response to his being the presumptive nominee) the fact that he seems to be right if point 2 is correct.

I know there's people who will vote for him because he's not Clinton. Just as there are people who will vote for Clinton because she's not Trump. But when you put aside "He's not X" or "She's not Y", what actually makes Donald Trump a better candidate than Hillary Clinton for President of the United States of America? Because I'm honestly not seeing it. What skeleton, or combination of skeletons, in Hillary's closet makes her the worse choice next to Donald "We have to go after terrorists' families" Trump?

edited 3rd Jun '16 7:07:49 PM by sgamer82

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#124511: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:18:46 PM

It's like Homer said

Except applied to a judge.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#124512: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:21:36 PM

[up][up]Simple fact of the matter is that people who support Trump are bigots. It's that straightforward.

That they would even tolerate anything he says, let alone agree with it is proof enough.

edited 3rd Jun '16 7:21:48 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#124513: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:25:14 PM

[up] Either that or they just hate Hillary Clinton and/or the Democratic party that much.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#124514: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:39:03 PM

The idea that he genuinely believes what he says with this kind of stuff, the idea that he's only saying it because he thinks it's what will get him elected, or (going by the Republicans' response to his being the presumptive nominee) the fact that he seems to be right if point 2 is correct.

I might hazard a guess at the latter. From what I understand, Trump doesn't really have much of a platform and seems to change his mind fairly frequently, so the idea that he just says whatever will get him the most attention and the most likely to ignite the racist and xenophobic feelings in America sounds plausible to me.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#124515: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:40:55 PM

Well my trainer says he worked with a rich guy who worked with Trump. Apparently he really is a racist sexist sack of shit who never pays any money back. And all the other rich people hate him. The man is acting more and more like Eric Cartman by the day.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#124516: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:49:38 PM

Trump's got a very long history of bigotry, this isn't just a show for votes.

He's been taken to federal court more than once for refusing to rent homes to black people for example.

Oh really when?
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#124517: Jun 3rd 2016 at 8:08:22 PM

One of my professors in college was Trump's executive secretary for a while; she says that he really is that much of a pig.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#124518: Jun 3rd 2016 at 9:02:06 PM

I should have probably clarified that it wouldn't surprise me if Trump was actually that racist. As far as his private life goes, his ex-wife has basically said he raped her so him being a shitty person was never really in question.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#124519: Jun 3rd 2016 at 9:26:33 PM

And half the country will vote for him. So what does that say, about America, as a whole?

New Survey coming this weekend!
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#124520: Jun 3rd 2016 at 10:06:22 PM

That Rupert Murdoch is good at mass brainwashing?

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#124521: Jun 3rd 2016 at 10:24:55 PM

I got into an argument with someone who said that there was no chance Hillary could win the general-he said that she's got too much dirty laundry, the emails will haunt her and that there's no way she can win a debate. I feel like I lost that argument, even though I shouldn't have-she still has as much of a chance as anybody. I just discovered that I probably shouldn't argue on the internet...

edited 3rd Jun '16 10:25:40 PM by ILoveDogs

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#124522: Jun 3rd 2016 at 11:13:01 PM

[up][up][up] Which is another thing I find disturbing any his success thus far.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#124523: Jun 3rd 2016 at 11:14:48 PM

I just discovered that I probably shouldn't argue on the internet.

Generally a good rule of thumb. In an internet argument, the only winning move is not to play.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#124524: Jun 3rd 2016 at 11:19:50 PM

I am hardly worried with Trump to be honest, I don't think he'd have a realistic chance of ever becoming the president.

Him becoming a nominee pretty much means that the US politics were reduced to a circus though.

Inter arma enim silent leges
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#124525: Jun 3rd 2016 at 11:23:50 PM

A Trump presidency would just make me remember the last president we had, a bufoon and plutocrat who tried to fill the supreme court with cronies (partly succeeded) and bought lots of congressmen to gain a legislave majority in his period, He tried to run a lackey for president in the last election but that lackey lost (Panama does not allow consecutive re-election)


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