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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Doing that would be be outside of the scope of powers the president is supposed to have, but if the next president ends up getting 4 supreme court appointments, they only need one of the sitting justices to be willing to play sycophant to have borderline autocratic power via the court and executive orders.
Which incidentally is how Sanders might have been able to get a large portion of his agenda done, failing a mass movement seriously altering the balance of power in congress.
edited 26th May '16 4:32:48 PM by CaptainCapsase
RE: The Trump/Sanders potential debate
I was watching The Last Word and I'd say his guests—a Republican and Democratic strategist—summed it up well. If Trump wins such a debate, it will give him the chance to unify the Republican Party behind him by taking on the evil socialist. It also gives him the opportunity to elevate Sanders and hurt Clinton's campaign. Even if Sanders does well, it still hurts Clinton's chances, and intensifies the rabid support among some of the crazier Sanders fans who are liable to look at the debate and be upset that it's not what they are getting in the general election. For Sanders it's a chance to essentially spite Clinton, and maybe, if he does well, steal California, and go into the Democratic convention with just a little more power, at the cost of making her chances even harder in the general.
The only way it works out for Clinton they noted is if both Trump and Sanders come off so badly that the viewers say "I'm voting for somebody who wasn't on that stage tonight."
I get why Trump might want to do this. I'm sorry that Sanders is even considering it. No matter how well he were to do—even if he were to annihilate Trump—it only hurts the party in the long run, and makes Trump's chances in the general better.
Doesn't care in the least. Like his most fanatical supporters—guys like Jimmy Dore—Sanders can expect to comfortably ride out the worst of a Trump presidency, so who cares if his actions help the man get elected?
As to that second point, he's losing and desperate. He's been telling himself and his supporters for a year now that he was going to beat Clinton, that they were the true heart and soul of the progressive movement and they were going to take the nomination from her. And it hasn't gone anywhere. He's looking defeat in the face and grasping for a media stunt that can turn it around, and in his mind this debate, were it to go forward could be that stunt.
Yeah it's not like Sanders has spoken plenty about how horrible Trump would be and how preferable Clinton would be as presiden.. Oh wait a second, he has done that.
You guys keep acting as if Sander is being extra spiteful to Clinton, when he's currently still not even at the point where she dropped out against Obama, nor is he honestly pushing for the nomination anymore.
Maybe just maybe Sanders wants to debate Trump because he thinks someone should challenge Trump's message now and not wait till later? Maybe he'll do some damage that Clinton can later capitalise on, maybe the personal insults Trump will throw at him will be so much worse then what Clinton has throw that Sanders more rabbit supporters will hate Trump extra hard.
There are two ways for Sanders supporters to fall in behind Clinton more then we're expecting them to, they either need to like Clinton more or like Trump less. Sanders getting personally insulted and attacked by Trump is a dam good way to make Sanders supporters hate Trump.
Plus if Sanders is willing to play dirty he can throw dirt st Trump in a more mudslinging way then Clinton will be able to, because come November it doesn't matter what the national electorate think of Sanders, but if he's managed to turn some of them against Trump that could be a big help.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranActually, this does seem kind of spiteful to me. To do something like this before the primary is even over is highly unusual, and his announcement of the situation made it very clear he expects this to help him get the nomination. And Trump sure as hell would rather face Sanders than Clinton.
In any case, I'm mostly just confused this is happening. Of course, it hasn't even been planned yet, just the two of them talking about it. They might not even be able to find someone to host this on TV, because it's been suggested to be full of ethical concerns.
It's highly unusual sure, but that rather describes everything that Sanders has done, so it being usual doesn't mean it's inherently spiteful, it would only be that if Clinton suggested making it a three person debate and Sanders then refused.
This is all academic anyway, as Trump is refusing to do it, which probably means he at least thinks that it would hurt him.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranNot on a debate stage it hasn't, Trump has never had his message and ideas challenged in a debate, even the Republican debates. Because in the end the other Republican candidates agreed with his ideas and message, as such they only challenged his personal character and message delivery.
edited 26th May '16 9:30:19 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyranhttp://fusion.net/video/307108/bernie-sanders-acknowledges-he-should-know-more-about-latin-america/
SMFH
New Survey coming this weekend!The money quote.
Here's the thing Sanders, you kinda need to know that shit if you want to be considered qualified to run. He's getting an isolationist smell about him Sanders is, left-wing isolationism.
It reminds me of the nuclear waste dumping thing with the quote.
When he was running in Vermont he didn't care about a town in Texas and wanted to focus on Vermont, now he's running for the whole US he doesn't care about South America and wants to focus on the US.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranMy point is that the President can't just fill the Supreme Court with toadies who take their orders from the White House. They can nominate people whose political opinions they broadly agree with, sure, but that's hardly the same thing.
Trump has proposed a bunch of SCOTUS justices already. From what I can tell, they are both very conservative and likely acceptable to the Republican senators. So yeah, they'd probably get appointed if you let Republicans have a Senate majority.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThat interview has really soured me on him. He should at least pretend to know what the other left-populists in his own continent think and how they operate. Also, latin america is not south america, Silas, I know the US people tend to use both terms interchangeably, but I would be rather grateful if you too didn't engage in such geographic misnomer.
'Young Turks' host Cenk Uygur offers $1 million to stage Sanders-Trump debate.
edited 27th May '16 1:02:07 AM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.

Also, as Tobias said, Trump couldn't legally pull them in - it's outside the scope of his powers. But if he gave a public address encouraging them to act, they probably would, and it would hamper the local police. What Drumpfenfurher could do is send in the Army or National Guard - but they are far more likely to act in a fair and even manner, and put down the racists with glee.