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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#123501: May 25th 2016 at 12:09:34 PM

@ Blue Ninja 0

Won't happen. By the end of the Dem convention next month, there will be a single nominee, almost certainly Hillary.

So there is a time limit for either party to have a candidate before November. Thanks.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#123502: May 25th 2016 at 12:38:29 PM
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ZeroPoint Since: Feb, 2013
#123503: May 25th 2016 at 12:56:57 PM

OK; someone please talk me down from this.

If Trump is elected, I see no choice but to commit suicide. The whole world seems to be headed towards a death spiral between climate change and extremism and it offers nothing to me. Trump would be the definitive proof that the world I was promised, a world in which I just have to do my job and my life would continuously keep getting better and better is a complete lie. I do not want to become an activist, I do not want to fight, because I know if I do I will die screaming instead of merely dying. My parents would be upset but it's their problem for bringing me into this hellish world (though admittedly through no fault of their own but they are too ignorant to see how bad things are otherwise they would be begging for my forgiveness every week). I can simply enjoy myself until then but that only goes so far: I have already vowed to not have children and any relationships I have is simply someone else that drags me down and ties to to this place even further.

By now you must be feeling horribly shocked but then I ask: in that case why do you keep spouting such horrible things? Do you think that talking about them will cause them to go away? I have never in my life have heard so many people say "Everything is doomed" or similar sentiments. And yet we stigmatized those who want to run away? And all for what? So we can "cure them" by institutionalizing them and feel better about ourselves? So we can call them crazy and feel better? Or simply the biological mechanism to survive which in such dark times is more of a hindrance?

I was not put into this world by my choice so I have the right to leave. If there is a God, I will spit at His feet and call him out for creating such a hellish prison.

Again, talk me down from this.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#123504: May 25th 2016 at 12:59:10 PM

[up] You need professional help.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#123505: May 25th 2016 at 1:02:03 PM

Oh.

edited 25th May '16 1:02:15 PM by Keybreak

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#123506: May 25th 2016 at 1:19:54 PM

[up][up][up]

What?

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#123507: May 25th 2016 at 1:20:39 PM

[up] Let's just ... move on.

Out of curiosity, has anyone decided to vote Libertarian because they despite Hillary and Trump?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#123508: May 25th 2016 at 1:23:48 PM

[up] It's about as meaningful as voting green as a leftist. Which is to say not really meaningful.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#123509: May 25th 2016 at 1:59:37 PM

I have some Facebook friends who are shilling for Gary Johnson. He's polling at 10 percent right now, not enough to mount any kind of electoral win but possibly enough to steal the victory from one of the major party candidates.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#123510: May 25th 2016 at 2:02:54 PM

I think this is the Clinton finding that does have some merit, but the problem is that it came after the witch-fires of Gowdy's committee burned themselves out, now the angle of attack is discredited.

MABfan11 from Remnant Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#123511: May 25th 2016 at 2:22:53 PM

People-particularly socialists-applied almost messianic traits to Obama

hahahaha, you think that socialists saw Obama as a messiah, he's far too much in the center to let that happen to him.

Bumbleby is best ship. busy spending time on r/RWBY and r/anime. Unapologetic Socialist
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#123512: May 25th 2016 at 3:58:17 PM

An open letter to Bernie-or-Bust voters, from a former Nader supporter.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/a_letter_to_a_bernie_or_bust_voter.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#123513: May 25th 2016 at 4:01:01 PM

The Bernie-or-Bust thing only makes sense if you assume that Trump (or any of the Republican nominees) would be better than Hilary. I've never really seen anyone actually explain why they feel that way.

Like, people go "She's untrustworthy" but they don't actually seem like the kind of people who trust Republicans, in general, or if they do trust them, it's to do something horrible.

It's why the whole movement has me at a loss, especially now.

edited 25th May '16 6:04:34 PM by LSBK

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#123514: May 25th 2016 at 4:02:46 PM

I think it'll die down, soon enough.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#123515: May 25th 2016 at 4:03:26 PM

Yeah, I run into a similar problem with my Republican friends who want to vote Trump. They make a few bad statements about Hillary, but never explain in which fashion Trump is better.

Leviticus 19:34
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#123516: May 25th 2016 at 4:09:54 PM

Colbert had his own take on the Nader comparison.

And I also cannot possibly fathom how the people that feel that Clinton is fundamentally untrustworthy can find a Trump presidency even remotely tolerable.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#123518: May 25th 2016 at 4:35:33 PM

@Eschaton Hey I posted that.

@Braeburn And I saw that first one. A sketchy circumvention to be sure...

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#123519: May 25th 2016 at 5:21:45 PM

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) under federal investigation for campaign contributions.

Worth noting:

As part of the probe, the officials said, investigators have scrutinized Mc Auliffe's time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative, a vehicle of the charitable foundation set up by former President Bill Clinton.

However:

There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on Mc Auliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said.

edited 25th May '16 5:25:12 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#123520: May 25th 2016 at 6:10:48 PM

Hey, what are some of these corporate interests Clinton is supposedly beholden too? That's another thing people complain about a lot but are usually pretty vague about.

Also, I assume Sanders has some corporate ties? I find it hard to believe he's lasted as long as he has without playing the game at all.

edited 25th May '16 6:11:06 PM by LSBK

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#123521: May 25th 2016 at 6:29:43 PM

[up]Yes he does.

edited 25th May '16 6:29:53 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#123522: May 25th 2016 at 6:33:39 PM

[up][up] Here are Open Secrets profiles on Clinton and Sanders

Keep in mine Vermont is rural state with less than a million people in it. A guy like Sanders couldn't get elected anywhere outside of New England.

A Trump campaign plan to target Hillary Clinton over the decades-old Whitewater real estate scandal was made public on Wednesday afternoon when a Trump spokeswoman accidentally included a Politico reporter on the email thread.

He hires the best people. The best.

edited 25th May '16 6:33:56 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#123523: May 25th 2016 at 6:37:21 PM

The chart on campaign contributions sort of blows away the narrative of her being funded by big business. Which is good to know but should probably be brought up more.

Edit: Looking at it closer, it's a bit more complicated than I thought. Still, should be shown around more.

edited 25th May '16 6:40:10 PM by LSBK

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#123524: May 25th 2016 at 6:56:58 PM

The FBI and SEC are scrutinizing GOP Senator Bob Corker’s personal finances, including stock transactions involving one of the nation’s top developers of shopping centers and malls.

The United Auto Workers Union (UAW) endorsed Hillary Clinton.

edited 25th May '16 7:06:04 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#123525: May 25th 2016 at 6:59:22 PM

Fucking Whitewater. It didn't work 20 years ago, why would it work now? I think one of Trump's own people said "that scandal's old enough to vote."


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