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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#123476: May 25th 2016 at 7:52:02 AM

Pissy Sanders supporters are going to fall in line for the most part. PUMA wasn't a thing in 2008, despite the noise being made about it.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#123477: May 25th 2016 at 7:52:20 AM

When we're talking about primaries, there are generally two polling bumps: one after the convention when the candidate officially accepts the nomination from their party, and one before that when they emerge as the presumptive nominee (ie, everyone else has dropped out of the primary). Trump is benefitting from that first bump, but Clinton is not yet.

Basically, Clinton-vs-Trump polls won't be comparing apples to apples until after the party conventions. Until then, Trump is going to have a polling advantage that doesn't actually reflect reality.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#123478: May 25th 2016 at 7:52:38 AM

Generally speaking the people who advocate burning it are the people who can ride out the fire in safety. There's a reason why most of the "Bernie or Bust" crowd I've run into are white, middle class men.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#123479: May 25th 2016 at 8:30:25 AM

"Clinton did not comply with policy on email records: reports" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0YG21Z

This could be problematic

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#123480: May 25th 2016 at 8:40:33 AM

I intend to firmly ignore that unless there's a credible finding of criminal wrongdoing.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#123481: May 25th 2016 at 8:43:40 AM

[up] The article states she violated policy, they're still determining if actual laws were broken, if I'm understanding it right.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#123482: May 25th 2016 at 8:49:57 AM

No, the article cites "U.S. media outlets" reporting that if she did certain things, that would have been a violation of policy. It literally says nothing except that unnamed people said something about something. It's bizarrely circular — given that Reuters is a US media outlet, the article could conceivably be talking about itself.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#123483: May 25th 2016 at 8:54:10 AM

"The idiots who hold the "torch it" mentality never seem to want to stop and consider that in this case they will likely be the ones against the wall (metaphorically or literally, depending on how things swing) when their glorious revolution arrives."

If they're white, they have an easy out. They become fervent Trump supporters and Les Collaborateurs. Brown people, like me, though? We'll be facing the firing squads.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#123484: May 25th 2016 at 8:56:43 AM

@ Polls: An important thing to remember is that people lie — for example, with what is called in Britain the "vote for an unpopular Party, Shy Tory Factor".

Keep Rolling On
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#123485: May 25th 2016 at 10:02:10 AM

I do love the two clips linked at the bottom of this article. Nice to see some people on CNN calling out Trump.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#123486: May 25th 2016 at 10:35:54 AM

I wasn't actually looking into politics during Obama's first run, did he and his supporters have the same air of "saviorness" around them that (a lot but not all) of his supporters drape around Sanders?

Because I remember being a bit bewildered by people acting as if Obama had solved all the countries problems the day after he was elected. I don't mean just taking in the historical event, I mean legitimately acting as if he could or would be able to fix all of the countries problems.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#123487: May 25th 2016 at 10:51:12 AM

I highly doubt Trump will form death squads to hunt down and shoot brown people. But a Trump Presidency will be hell on Earth for just about everyone, yes even his dam supporters, who will be forced to witness social disruption not seen since the fucking 60's and 70's.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#123488: May 25th 2016 at 11:02:56 AM

[up] ...and possibly a domestic terrorist campaign or two (from both the Left and Right)?

Keep Rolling On
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#123489: May 25th 2016 at 11:05:01 AM

Yeah, their is no way the Panthers won't see a major revival if Trump is elected, and the Black Panther (yes I know their not related) move comes out in 2018. And of course Trump is already leading some of the nastier elements of the White Supremacist movement out of the shadows.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#123490: May 25th 2016 at 11:05:56 AM

We could easily see a revival of old-school racial violence, such as lynchings and beatings, answered by riots and motivating a call for suspension of civil liberties.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#123491: May 25th 2016 at 11:09:16 AM

We already are seeing it. There was a lynching in NC that was ruled a suicide, despite all evidence pointing to racists.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#123493: May 25th 2016 at 11:22:01 AM

[up][up] All the evidence I remember hearing about was circumstantial, poor kid was dating an older white woman and people didn't like that.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#123494: May 25th 2016 at 11:34:24 AM

But hey, let's just elect him anyhow just to show how "pure" and "principled" we are!!

/s

New Survey coming this weekend!
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#123495: May 25th 2016 at 11:47:11 AM

[up]Sounds like a plan. While we're at it, let's cut off our noses to spite our faces.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#123496: May 25th 2016 at 11:48:02 AM

What will happen if neither Clinton nor Sanders have been selected to be the Democrat nominee before November this year?
Won't happen. By the end of the Dem convention next month, there will be a single nominee, almost certainly Hillary.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#123497: May 25th 2016 at 12:00:15 PM

I wasn't actually looking into politics during Obama's first run, did he and his supporters have the same air of "saviorness" around them that (a lot but not all) of his supporters drape around Sanders?

Because I remember being a bit bewildered by people acting as if Obama had solved all the countries problems the day after he was elected. I don't mean just taking in the historical event, I mean legitimately acting as if he could or would be able to fix all of the countries problems.

Sort of answering your own question, aren't you? There were certainly people — a minority, but some — who acted like Obama was going to singlehandedly solve all our woes. These people are largely the ones who now talk about "hope and change" with bitter air quotes and act like Obama sold out and became The Man instead of fixing everything like they (think they) were promised.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#123498: May 25th 2016 at 12:02:59 PM

Yes, back in 2008 Obama was quite treated like a saviour, I remember that right.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#123499: May 25th 2016 at 12:04:33 PM

I meant more along the lines of was it a significant thing or if people made a big deal about it when discussing Obama or his faults like they do with Sanders. Should have been more clear.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!

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