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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#121926: May 10th 2016 at 7:00:41 PM

@Fry: We're legalizing marijuana in half-steps because there's a growing consensus that it makes no fucking sense to imprison someone on felony charges for smoking some weed. The fact that the wheels are coming off of marijuana law is an effective distraction from actually fixing the prison-industrial complex and mass incarceration, which is the engine that drives America's drug policy.

Until then, a rational discussion of drug policy won't happen because the money is against it, and money=speech.

edited 10th May '16 7:02:20 PM by Ramidel

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#121927: May 10th 2016 at 7:01:56 PM

[up]Define "really right wing," Europeans have a No True Scotsman attitude towards American liberals, like, "So, you're saying you don't throw dissenters into gulags and seize the means of production? How incredibly quaint!"

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#121928: May 10th 2016 at 7:02:38 PM

SJW's are mostly just that really small, really bad minority of people in an equality movement that are idiotic and don't think things through when they speak.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#121929: May 10th 2016 at 7:04:56 PM

SJW's tend to be despised by mainstream liberals (like myself), actually, mainly because they embody the worst stereotype of the American left. Like, the people I know who mock them the most have unabashedly leftist views.

And, to be honest, it seems to reach a fever pitch in colleges. I rarely see working professionals who still behave like that. The realities of a working life tend to iron out a person's eccentricities for the better. When you're in college, especially when you're in one of those nonsense liberal arts majors that are pretty much sustained through the proposition of increasingly wacky ideas, the engine that fuels the sort of discourse that SJW's thrive on is self-sustaining.

edited 10th May '16 7:09:24 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#121930: May 10th 2016 at 7:06:54 PM

Indeed. SJ Ws are those kind of nutcases that protest groups distance themselves from because they make them look bad.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#121931: May 10th 2016 at 7:06:56 PM

Yeah, the left and the center tend to go after the loud minority of wackjobs for essentially writing the right's propaganda for it.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#121932: May 10th 2016 at 7:22:12 PM

Saving grace is that at least the left doesn't cater to their crazies and give them power like the right does.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#121933: May 10th 2016 at 7:22:38 PM

I don't know exactly what people consider to be "nutjobs". I'm friends with several people who identify as Social Justice Warriors, and most of what they say seems rational.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#121934: May 10th 2016 at 7:31:37 PM

I've seen some crazy SJW type stuff on Cracked articles, like saying Louis CK is sexist for saying vaginas are beautiful instead of tough, or saying this one scene in a video game is sexist for having a girl cry, or other annoying things.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#121935: May 10th 2016 at 7:37:14 PM

[up] Depends on the context. They could all be sexist but it depends on the context.

50-50 that Trump becomes out next president.

I blame the people who voted for Hillary.sad

edited 10th May '16 7:37:25 PM by MadSkillz

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#121936: May 10th 2016 at 7:40:42 PM

[up]no, Hill was the right choice for sure.

Why not blame Trump's voters?

Leviticus 19:34
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#121937: May 10th 2016 at 7:47:45 PM

If she loses then she was the wrong choice.

....I blame those people too.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#121938: May 10th 2016 at 7:48:44 PM

Said video game in question was The Last of Us, and the Louis CK thing was him comparing vaginas to flowers and the author saying vaginas are in iron box.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#121939: May 10th 2016 at 7:58:25 PM

@Crimson Zephyr: Would you say a creative writing major is worthless? I want to be an author but I'm worried about becoming some sort of starving writer, or worse morphing into a hipster.[lol]

edited 10th May '16 7:58:34 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#121940: May 10th 2016 at 8:04:17 PM

Also, the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center re-examined Sanders' proposals and found that everyone (except the wealthy) would have a net gain if they got implemented, to the tune of an average of $9,000 in higher taxes, but $13,000 in benefits. Those at the top-tier would see a net loss of $111,000 in 2017, though.

However, it'd also balloon the deficit to $18-20 trillion over the next decade, so...

edited 10th May '16 8:09:46 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#121941: May 10th 2016 at 8:09:13 PM

Much like the Radical Islam issue, I think the SJW thing is legitimate issue that gets blown way out of proportion (mainly by people with agendas). I think the majority of so-called SJ Ws will mellow out with age and experience.

I've seen some crazy SJW type stuff on Cracked articles, like saying Louis CK is sexist for saying vaginas are beautiful instead of tough, or saying this one scene in a video game is sexist for having a girl cry, or other annoying things.

My favorite example of SJW-craziness is when a University yoga class got canceled because of connections to ‘oppression, cultural genocide’. [1]

50-50 that Trump becomes out next president.

Nate Silver made a couple of tweets about how we shouldn't put much emphasis on the polls this early on. I'd wait until after the conventions before getting too concerned.

edited 10th May '16 8:31:02 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#121942: May 10th 2016 at 8:56:30 PM

Nate Silver inferior, Carl Digger superior. tongue

edited 10th May '16 8:56:41 PM by PotatoesRock

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#121943: May 10th 2016 at 9:22:50 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, I've heard that too. Yes, it's a lot of money to spend, but it will all be worth it in the long run, except for the deficit (and I have no idea how we would fix that).

Not to mention we wouldn't have to raise taxes as much if we cut the military budget a bit so we're not spending a full half of our GDP on the military.

edited 10th May '16 9:23:40 PM by theLibrarian

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#121944: May 11th 2016 at 12:15:36 AM

Europeans have a No True Scotsman attitude towards American liberals, like, "So, you're saying you don't throw dissenters into gulags and seize the means of production? How incredibly quaint!"

Clearly you don't know what the hell you're talking about. What is that, an "All Socialism Is Stalinism" trope, combined with "All Europeans Are Smug Aristocrats"?

@Fighteer's "it's not just" speech, couldn't you simply have used bullet points to convey "all of those things together"?

edited 11th May '16 12:18:18 AM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#121946: May 11th 2016 at 1:01:09 AM

[up] The rally thing has me worried...

edited 11th May '16 1:16:28 AM by Bat178

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#121947: May 11th 2016 at 1:26:41 AM

I don't understand how any filter programs on Facebook is a big enough issue to concern the Senate. And, as Facebook is a social networking site, I'm not sure how journalistic standards are supposed to apply to it. Not like conservatives can't get their news elsewhere.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#121948: May 11th 2016 at 1:43:17 AM

The Cynic's answer: Senate Republicans are sore that their deregulation policies have enabled pro-liberal media.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#121949: May 11th 2016 at 1:44:08 AM

Actually, Bats, the Rally thing is basically Trump shooting himself in the foot. Not using GOTV + Targeted voter data in this day and age is almost suicidal.

As to the Senate:

Basically the complaint is that since Facebook is a nigh monopoly/utility, it should act unbiased and use any news sources for its feeds instead of prioritizing "Liberal" media sources for news content.

As well, they're basically whining that they let things get deregulated for so long, that the deregulation blew up in their face that Facebook doesn't have to follow regulatory standards regarding media content, when it's the biggest media and news platform on Earth.

Also, most news websites increasingly rely on Facebook to aggregate them to get any viewer numbers worth a damn to stay in the black.

The Cynic's answer: Senate Republicans are sore that their deregulation policies have enabled pro-liberal media.
DING DING DING, u r a winnar.

The biggest media platform on the Earth is run by a left wing Silicon Valley Billionaire.

edited 11th May '16 1:45:18 AM by PotatoesRock

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#121950: May 11th 2016 at 3:16:30 AM

Colbert has taught me that there's a dating site for Americans looking to escape Trump to Canada. Called Maple Match. The Internet is amazing.

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