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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Neoconservatism = social conservatism + imperialism. George W. Bush and his entire cabinet are the textbook examples.
Neoliberalism = social liberalism + free-market economics. Bill Clinton and his cabinet, minus Robert Reich, were mostly these. Different from American libertarianism in that neoliberalism is mostly an electoral strategy, while libertarianism is rooted more in abstract philosophy and principle.
Both are inherently contradictory, because many conservatives are isolationists and a growing number of liberals are social democrats. I'm not an authority, but that's my interpretation of the two factions. Both are discredited nowadays,
edited 9th May '16 7:38:06 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Sure, it's a change. I'm allowed to change. You need flexibility, George, whether it's a tax plan, where you're going — where you know you're going to negotiate.
I hate to say it, but Trump's not wrong here... Politicians do need to be able to compromise, which is something the Republican Party has completely failed to do with the Obama Presidency. Just the mere fact that Donald Trump is saying that there needs to be flexibility and negotiation says everything that needs to be said about the current sad state of the Republican Party.
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People do need to be willing to change and negotiate, but coming from Trump it sounds like "I'm going to say whatever the audience I am in front of at this moment currently wants."
Yes, I'm being harsh on him, but I don't think it's an unreasonable assessment.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Yeah, that's been a really big criticism of Congress for pretty much the entire Obama presidency. Every Republican stonewalls every Democrat bill and the body is just two groups of children screaming at one another, and the government shutdown was someone getting mad that they weren't winning at a video game and instead walking up and unplugging the console and saying "I win."
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To be fair, I blame the obstruction entirely on Republicans. I also think Trump would be the worst U.S. President.
If Uncle Sam were a private citizen, he would have been thrown into debtor's prison ages ago. But governments are not bound by the same economic conventions as individuals or corporations. The idea of "running the government like a business" shouldn't be taken so literally; people just mean that there should be less waste and inefficiency.
Governments provide many services that the private sector simply can't. Don't like the long lines and poor service at the DMV? Well, where else can you get a valid driver's license?
This Space Intentionally Left Blank.So, not like a business, then?
As for your latter point, you're using the wrong example. Private organizations could just as well provide a reliable certification of driving ability... and they could just as well cause long lines and poor service.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.Congressional considerations in whether Sanders will back Hillary
- I found the thing about appointments most interesting.
#5 is more support that Trump is a plant for the Democrats.
The rest of them are eh.
I don't disbelieve it now.
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stayI have never seriously believed he was a plant; it's more of a tongue-in-cheek idea. But Trump is most definitely not a traditional Republican politician, because the distinguishing factor for them is that they have to both sell the party-line BS and visibly believe it. Trump does neither, so while he's got his own brand of very visible ignorance going on, he occasionally says correct, sane things because they are what a normal, observant person would say.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I was just thinking about this, actually.
If it is a ploy, the idea that so many people went for Trump is...disquieting.
Oh God! Natural light!I suppose not. I mean, it's not something they would have tried if they didn't think it would work.
Oh God! Natural light!Well, I think a more plausible version of "Trump's a Democratic plant" is that Trump isn't in Hillary's pocket per say. Rather, he wants the Democrats to win so he ran as a Republican with the intention of sabotaging from within by drawing attention away from better candidates (IE, all of them), drive people away from the GOP, while still pandering to a base that could win him the primary.
Leviticus 19:34Trump's always been a nativist and a massive bigot. He's been taken to court more than once for refusing to rent homes to black people.
And even if he is a secret liberal or a plant or if he's just plain lying for votes, it don't matter. He's caused irreparable damage to the political process and psyche in America. All the most bigoted and militant elements in this country have been stirred up and are out for blood and political power.
Oh really when?
Hmm...in your opinion, how long do think the US has left?
edited 10th May '16 10:20:13 AM by Greenmantle
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Neoliberalism is generally an economic stance, neoconservativism is primarily a foreign policy position.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.