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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#121726: May 8th 2016 at 5:48:20 PM

And his response to being called out sounds like claiming federal overreach that didn't actually exist (at least not until he made all the noise about it).

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#121727: May 8th 2016 at 7:53:44 PM

[up]x4 Ah. Sorry about not knowing that; the tiny libertarian part of me was only focusing on the tax part.

[up][up][up] Has Chris Wallace always been such a sane Fox News anchor?

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#121728: May 8th 2016 at 8:22:47 PM

[up]No. He just looks sane comparatively these days.

Then again, a lot of crazy right-wingers are looking comparatively sane these days. I saw a bit where Glenn Beck was listing all the problems with Trump. That horrible moment when you realize you agree with Glenn Beck on something...shudder.

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#121729: May 8th 2016 at 8:29:24 PM

An awful lot of the hardcore right-wing pundits are entertainers first and ideologues second. They act crazy because it gets them ratings. They suck up to Trump because it's what their viewers and listeners want. Every now and then one breaks from the pack in a fit of sanity, presumably because the guy in the mirror got too fed up with what he was looking at.

edited 8th May '16 8:30:21 PM by Fighteer

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#121730: May 8th 2016 at 8:47:44 PM

I saw that one video where Bill O'Reilly was on with Colbert, and he seemed very...frustrated with the Republican establishment. And at that moment, I felt a strange sense of empathy...

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#121731: May 8th 2016 at 8:49:29 PM

O'Reilly is a strange duck. He's an incredibly smart man who has the rare ability to break down a complex subject into easy to understand bits and communicate those to an audience. He's a masterful debater, but he's also an egomaniac and a complete ass who believes that his own shit doesn't stink and is perfectly happy to deliver wrong interpretations of those complex subjects if they'll boost his ratings.

edited 8th May '16 8:49:59 PM by Fighteer

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#121732: May 8th 2016 at 11:47:20 PM

He was certainly extremely rude and condescending throughout the conversation with Colbert, even though he was very avuncular and charismatic about it.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#121733: May 9th 2016 at 3:17:29 AM

Not to mention that in the specific case of Glenn Beck, he's a Mormon who appears to honestly believe in at least some of the social aspects of their religion (the part where they take charity real seriously). That's going to lead to some weird positions on his part.

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#121734: May 9th 2016 at 4:04:49 AM

[up] He also proclaimed that Ted Cruz would help stave off the End Times.

Needless to say, he's taking Trump's victory hard.

Donald Trump said in an interview broadcast Sunday that there will be changes to his tax plan after negotiations.

"By the time it gets negotiated, it's going to be a different plan," Trump said on ABC's "This Week."

According to the candidate's plan, the tax rate for the wealthiest people in the country would drop from 39.6 percent to 25 percent. But he said that would likely change.

"On my plan, they're going down. But by the time it's negotiated, they'll go up," Trump said.

edited 9th May '16 4:09:14 AM by Demonic_Braeburn

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#121735: May 9th 2016 at 4:47:45 AM

Don't blame Trump: America's Democracy was already broken While both sides view the will of the voters as a "problem", it is a 1,000 times worse on the Republican side.

Who will Clinton pick for Veep? She should probably pick one of the younger ones and spend the next 8 years molding them into a viable candidate for President. If Clinton wants to make the Democrats the "natural party of governance", she should start thinking about succession right now.

edited 9th May '16 5:14:13 AM by JackOLantern1337

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#121736: May 9th 2016 at 5:27:31 AM

I used to think it was all about Castro, but now i like Labor Secretary Perez.

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#121737: May 9th 2016 at 5:31:12 AM

Sanders?

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#121738: May 9th 2016 at 5:40:20 AM

Sanders is 71, isn't he?

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#121740: May 9th 2016 at 6:14:09 AM

So what? Reagan became POTUS at age 69 and reigned until he was almost 78.

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#121741: May 9th 2016 at 6:14:43 AM

I would say someone male, younger than her and somewhat, but not too far to her left. Non-white would be a plus as well.

Trump delenda est
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#121742: May 9th 2016 at 6:39:21 AM

[up][up] As a rule old Presidents pick younger Veeps to give them "respectability" and Younger Presidents pick older Veeps to give them "energy."

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#121743: May 9th 2016 at 6:41:45 AM

You mean the opposite? At any rate, Sanders is nothing if not energetic, and, though he is old, he carries the will of the youth.

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#121744: May 9th 2016 at 6:46:13 AM

"The youth" is flighty and unfocused. They'll find a new fad soon enough.

"So what? Reagan became POTUS at age 69 and reigned until he was almost 78."

Really bad example. He had Alzheimer's when he was in office, and it's a matter of historical debate how far he had declined while still in office.

edited 9th May '16 6:55:23 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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#121745: May 9th 2016 at 6:55:07 AM

I suggest you abstain from this kind of condescending put-down, if you wish for your opinion to be respected.

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#121746: May 9th 2016 at 6:56:56 AM

Condescension is the spice of life, though.

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#121747: May 9th 2016 at 6:59:30 AM

That would be 'variety'. You're welcome to maintain this tone, though; I'm sure it won't land you in trouble with the moderation at any point.

edited 9th May '16 7:01:16 AM by TheHandle

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#121748: May 9th 2016 at 7:03:47 AM

On the more practical side of things, it makes a lot more sense for an older President to have a younger VP simply because if the President has to step down for health reasons, they don't want a VP who is just as, if not more, likely to have their own health problems.

If the President and VP have to resign in rapid succession, the Presidency falls to the Speaker of the House who might be from the opposing party.

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#121749: May 9th 2016 at 7:13:49 AM

Krugman: The Facts Have a Well-Known Center-Left Bias

Basically, we know that right-wingers are fact-immune, but the hard left in this country is proving equally resilient to knowledge, cemented by Bernie Sanders' lamentable declaration in an interview last Friday that we need a left-wing equivalent of the Fox News Channel. /sigh

Why, Bernie, so we can have both sides engaged in fact-free propaganda wars? I watched that interview on Maddow and was facepalming a bit.

edited 9th May '16 7:14:33 AM by Fighteer

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Would that it were so simple.
#121750: May 9th 2016 at 7:21:48 AM

[up]That's rather unfortunate. The country isn't going to change for the better if progressivism is dumbed down.

Plus, I remember when MSNBC was actively trying to be "liberal Fox News," and still is, to a much smaller extent. The format doesn't work. Earnestness and political bias just make it more blatantly propaganda. Part of the appeal of Fox News is in its inherent meanness, which is what gives it entertainment value in the public's eye.

edited 9th May '16 7:21:56 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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