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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
While there's inevitably going to be some of that, those people probably weren't going to vote for Hillary anyway — and there's a hell of a lot fewer of them than there are Jeb/Rubio/Kaisch/Cruz/etc supporters that are going to stay home rather than vote for Trump. Especially if Sanders swallows his pride and goes on the campaign trail for Hillary after she gets the nomination.
edited 2nd May '16 6:42:17 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Trump's general approval rating is among the lowest of any candidate. He's going to find himself, in the general, having to search for votes among moderates and informed voters who will take one look at his rhetoric and his positions and freak out.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Dead horse, even among the the Republicans at this point.
Trump won't go there because the Clintons will bring up the rape accusations against him.
I'll be interested if the GOP even brings this up. Its not like Republicans aren't doing it.
These could be problems. At the very least Trump is gonna mention the FBI investigation a lot more than Sanders is.
edited 2nd May '16 7:15:10 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.What we need to fend off is the risk of Congressional Republicans engineering a major economic crisis between now and November.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"And or Government Shutdown.
And it's speculated Stone distanced himself from Trump specifically so he can start ripping into Hillary on anything and everything he can get his hands on, without worsening Trump himself or associating the attacks as being from The Donald.
Even if Trump has no chance of victory, there's no reason for him and his surrogates and allies and campaign team to play nice. If anything, if he's going down, I expect him to go down doing abnormal tactics to try and force a Pyrrhic Victory. If he can't win, why the hell should he let her go into office cleanly. Any form of normal political sportsmanship is off the table with Trump.
Hell, Trump loses, party is probably going to have Trump as the new Barry Goldwater (candidate who lost but ultimately massively reshaped the party. In Trump's case, making the Repubs a bunch of diehard ultra patriot nationalists willing to scuttle on Social Issues)
Ryan's a party of a dying breed of Republican, and I can't see him lasting, his career is probably going to be entirely shipwrecked. Nothing this election will change the calculus of the House too much that it won't result in him being left with a Significant Minority-Plurality of Ultra Hard Cores (The Freedom Caucus) who won't vote on sane legislation to bid time and try to soften the party image, leaving him with the remaining Repubs unable to pass laws due to the Hastert Rule.
Breaking the Hastert Rule lets you get primary'd.
Ryan's going to probably end up just as paralyzed and damaged as Boehner. Just we got a Boehner with less spray tan and more beard and apparently chronic heart/medical conditions.
edited 2nd May '16 9:48:23 PM by PotatoesRock
This is what I am worried about. Just getting the nomination will allow Trump to reshape the Republican Party into reflecting his views.
Ryan is going to break the Hastert rule if he wants to. To me the fact that he keeps being elected in a swingy district in Wisconsin indicates that he's too strong for a primary challenge to work. Assuming that the Republican bench there can even find a candidate for a primary challenge. I think it's more likely that rather than primarying Ryan hardcore conservatives will ruthlessly attack him at every turn.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanHe might not get primary'd, but breaking the Hastert Rule exposes a lot of his colleagues down the line beneath him to being criticized as insufficiently Republican.
It's like while there's no reason technically for a bunch of moderate Senate Republicans to stonewall the president on a Supreme Court Justice or other confirmations, Mitch won't do it because even if he's safe, all of his buddies and team mates in the Senate from Swing States could get torpedo'd and replaced with a Democrat, unless you prove your bonafides to the hardcore voters who demand complete hardcore-itude or they'll stay home as a fuck you, or Primary the guy for not being reasonably GOP-y enough.
Can Clinton win back Appalachia
They loved her in 08, but lately the relationship has gone sour, especially after Clinton made pledges to fight the coal industry in order to placate the left during the primary.
Frankly, the coal industry is a relic that needs to die. It's already all but gone anyway; the people clinging to it as if it's important are living out a fantasy. It's one of the nastiest, most unhealthy, most dangerous jobs out there anyway; I don't know why anyone would want to keep it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"They have only their Republican slave-drivers to blame for that.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Not with a minimum basic income and education supports to train themselves for other jobs. We have trillions of dollars of infrastructure rotting away; it would be incredibly efficient to hire all these people to fix up their own roads, bridges, pipes, etc.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

edited 2nd May '16 6:10:43 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.