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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Also, to answer the impending question, "Can a two-term President be appointed VP?", the official answer is "Uh...maybe?"
The 22nd Amendment forbids a President from running for a third term. The 12th Amendment states that no person ineligible for the role of President can be appointed Vice President. However, there's just enough wiggle room between the two; specifically, it can be argued that the 12th amendment specifically concerns eligibility for candidacy; by definition, if the 22nd amendment is even relevant than the candidate's eligibility is not in dispute.
If it were ever to come up, then the correct interpretation of the Constitution would be an issue for the Supreme Court to render a verdict on. But it never has. And, awesome though it would be in this particular case, it probably never will. It's a can of worms that no Presidential nominee wants to be carrying the baggage of during an election campaign.
edited 2nd May '16 12:54:36 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I think the intent is clear: you can neither win an election as VP nor be appointed VP by Senate confirmation if you've already been elected President twice. It would be very hard to imagine SCOTUS ruling otherwise.
edited 2nd May '16 1:08:14 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Unless the SCOTUS were on the would-be VP's side. It's not like that's never happened before.
In other news, Detroit teachers sick-out because pay cannot be guaranteed.
And Detroit spins further into tailspin mode, since they can't pay their teachers.
Its gonna be Senator Cory Booker or HUD Secretary Julian Castro.
Hell, someone has already edited Julian's Wikpedia page to say he's the current VP.[1]
edited 2nd May '16 2:15:17 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.![]()
When SCOTUS does that, we are in far worse trouble than anyone living in this generation can imagine.
More on Hillary's VP thing:
Castro has been a favorite ever since that speech he gave at the 2012 DNC Convention. He's young and Latino so he'd bring a lot of balance to the ticket. Being made HUD Secretary let him have staying power in the Democratic Establishment. You can tell he
really wants the job as well, as he's been heavily campaigning for Hillary throughout this primary. His only Achilles Heel is that some progressives with some of his polices at the HUD. [1]
The only real alternative is Cory Booker. Who is also young, a minority, and a Hilary supporter. Despite being in the Senate for such a short time, he's rather ambitious.
Other possibilities include Elizabeth Warren, Martin O'Malley, or even Sanders himself. But I don't think those are probable choices. They are all white Northeasterners, so they'd add little to the ticket.
edited 2nd May '16 9:13:32 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.Cory Booker would be the worst choice, for the single fact that he received more money from Wall St. (in the last election) than anyone else in the Senate.
Now, I don't think he's a particularly bad guy or anything, he had an interview with Colbert and he seemed like a perfectly decent person, though also a pretty standard politician. But picking him would send an obvious message to Sanders supporters that their concerns have been dismissed, and assumes that the threat of a Republican presidency is the only motivation they need. Which could very well be true, but I'm not sure how well that plays out in the long-term.
edited 2nd May '16 2:35:47 PM by Eschaton
Warren won't accept the VP as again, she's kept saying: She's best off being a gadfly and constant eyesore to non-Progressives by being in the Senate.
Sanders being given the VP has only one real benefit, it signals Hillary potentially sticking/acknowledging she won't go to the center, and leave the Progressive wing of the party in the cold. But she loves the Center, so it probably won't happen.
Meanwhile, with regards to Mrs. Clinton:
That annoys me greatly as do the suggestions to have Sherrod Brown (Senator of Ohio) as VP. The Democratic bench in Ohio is thin and they'd struggle at finding a replacement for Brown when the 2018 elections come.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman![]()
He has a chance of winning, especially if Clinton gets inedited. People seem to be pissed at the status quo, or maybe it's just the activist wings of both the parties that are pissed and everyone else is fine. If he can paint Hillary as the candidate of the status quo, than the American people may project all their problems onto her, and thus vote for Trump, or stay home. He is also skilled at "pivoting" and changing his positions, so it is possible he may "moderate" himself. And of course he's a lying scumbag so their's no telling if he'll sell out his voters or not.
He has a long shot, but a shot nonetheless. Just about every Hispanic I've met hates Trump passionately, and they will turn out in droves to keep him out of office. The recent violent attack on him, and yes people were throwing bricks that's what it was, clearly show quite a few people really hate this guy. And of course I'm sure Clinton has saved the juiciest attacks on him for the general election. Trump also has a huuuuuge problem with women voters.
Edit: And I doubt he is a "serious threat to the human race" The President doesn't really matter that much. Even if the US keep polluting the Chinese have committed to lower their emissions, and the advance of technology alone is leading to less pollution.
edited 2nd May '16 2:53:00 PM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.Very little. But it is there. First, Trump needs to win the primary. Then he needs to convince GOP leaders and donors that there better off with him than with Hillary. Then he needs to end or marginalize the No Trump movement. And then he needs to take on Hillary in the general election. So he has quite a lot on his plate.
Here's the one positive thing I'll say about Trump though; he's resourceful. A lot of people predicted that he wouldn't get this far. And yet here he is.
Heidi Cruz: My husband is not the Zodiac Killer.
edited 2nd May '16 9:37:29 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.You, know something I've learned by lurking here and at more conservative forums is that people here aren't getting something about Trump supporters.
Namely, they are in full Then Let Me Be Evil mode.
They are tired of being called all the names ending in ist or phobic and just went "fine, guess we are racist assholes, full speed ahead!"
Of course, most of the people here will just view it as them revealing their 'true' colors that they have been all along.
edited 2nd May '16 2:55:45 PM by TheWanted
@Zodiac story: There are lots of people who describe Cruz's appearance as creepy, even before looking at his policies (which are creepy). There are even cartoons about this.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Well, Obama plans on continuing to live in Washington D.C. after leaving office, so his younger daughter can finish high school there. So the question is raised about what he's going to do in the meantime...
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)