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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm pretty sure that even if Clinton wanted to talk about it she's prohibited by law because it's an ongoing investigation. Except to say that it's ridiculous, but even acknowledging it at this point (and frankly it hasn't been in the news lately so there's probably not much interesting going on at the moment) would be very odd for her to do.
I don't think it's going to amount to anything more than it already has.
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Fifth Amendment, eh? I can't see that one flying.
On the other matter, I can't blame Hillary for sticking to her center-left platform: she has to be concerned that, with Trump the presumptive GOP nominee, a hard-left stance would alienate the moderate voters she needs to beat him.
edited 29th Apr '16 2:27:29 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"edited 29th Apr '16 2:36:44 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.That period. Should have been a comma.
Clinton supporters, your candidate won. I'm happy for you, and I'mma let you finish. But if you don't want Bernie's voters to stay home in the general out of disgust, how about welcoming and embracing them, instead of rubbing salt on their wounds?
If the primaries had been open, Sanders would have won, apparently. He couldn't tap into independent voters when they weren't allowed to vote, now, could he?
edited 29th Apr '16 3:02:56 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.![]()
Keep in mind that he also had Closed Primaries to contend with, so a number of those Independents couldn't vote for him in a Primary - myself being one of them, due to NY's absolutely idiotic restrictionnote .
In my case, the objection isn't so much to the Closed primary system so much as NY's overly-restrictive incarnation of it.
edited 29th Apr '16 5:06:23 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Well (yet again) so much for the idea that Sanders is planning to split the convention.
I suspect that Clinton will be welcoming to Sanders supporters, he's probably going to stick around and make sure they don't wonder off. I suspect that you'll get a fair number turning out because Sanders said they should rather then because Clinton actually reached out.
I'm just enjoying how the narrative of "Sanders is an asshole on a warpath bent on destroying the party by contesting the convention" has shattered against the hard facts of reality.
Hey I can't understand your system at all, in most countries you pay membership fees to join a political party and can get kicked out if you say something stupid.
edited 29th Apr '16 3:40:48 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThere are so many wrong narratives on the Dem side that it's really hard to sort them all out and unpack them.
Here's a counterpoint to that closed primary thing: if you wanted to vote in the Democratic primary, you had months of time to check the rules in your state and correct your registration, if necessary. I did. So what's the excuse of people who didn't?
edited 29th Apr '16 3:46:42 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"In other words, it all comes down to California. Well, assuming that the RNC doesn't simply say "fuck you, votebags, we're Cruzing."
Take note that Cruz has been working hard on picking up uncommitted delegates or even injecting prospective Cruz supporters in delegates who are pledged to Trump. So Trump will need to play it safer than just 48%.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanFaithless electors have never swung an election in the US, ever. I wouldn't count on Cruz' plants to do more than look stupid. The question is whether Trump can get the majority - if he can't, then the delegates fly loose and the RNC scrambles to either unite behind Cruz, bring back Rubio, draft Ryan as a white knight, or otherwise anything-but-Trump.
edited 29th Apr '16 4:02:04 PM by Ramidel
California has one of the largest Hispanic population out there. Some Trump related protests have gone sour recently.
Non Indicative UsernameI don't think Hispanics in California vote in Republican Primaries. California is a very blue state, but we are talking about the subset of Californians who are also Republicans. Trump doesn't have to beat the Democrats to win the Republican primary in California... He just has to outdo Cruz and that other guy since they are the Republicans still in the race.
edited 29th Apr '16 4:32:34 PM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyI guess so. The Vietnamese-populated Orange County I live in are socially conservative.
Non Indicative UsernameFor a lot of states, last I checked, you can pretty much register day of. New York required you to register a month before.
edited 29th Apr '16 5:07:06 PM by PotatoesRock
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Seems my note got overlooked, then. New voters in NY had until March 25th. People already registered, regardless of affiliation, had to change their affiliation back in October of 2015, over 6 months before the actual Primary day (April 19th vs October 9th).
edited 29th Apr '16 5:13:14 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Yeah, the requirement in New York was balls. But that alone can't explain Bernie's loss.
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As a corollary, my particular state, which is red and in the South, allows people to vote in either party's primary on the day of the primary. There is really no excuse if even a Republican state can allow people to choose the primary to vote in on the day of the primary.
edited 29th Apr '16 5:27:00 PM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyRepublicans play plenty of other dirty tricks.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

I could deal with the flip-flopping and the big money ties, but the FBI thing genuinely worries me.
edited 29th Apr '16 2:26:23 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.