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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Left and right are becoming less and less important terms at the moment, keep in mind that one of Clinton's big attacks on Sanders is her coming at him from the left on guns.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranShe's always been part of the "ban guns, don't don't ban bad people from getting guns" crowd, back to the original assault weapons ban with its limit on cosmetic features.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranTrump isn't a career Republican, so considering his positions in those terms is often useless. Even more so considering he's reversed his position on some hot button issues literally a hour later. He's basically succeeded at saying literally whatever he wants and getting away with it, regardless of its sensibility.
He'd have a hard time with the taxes thing, though, I'm pretty sure he'd have to get that past the Congress.
Trump's the only one who could get the Republican nomination without a contested convention. Under normal circumstances, every other Republican would have dropped out and Trump would have the Republican nomination by default. He is completely within his right to pivot to the center for the general election and treat Cruz as a sore loser.
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YGB-what?
EDIT: realised this right after posting: "you gotta be kidding me", right?
EDIT 2: It's an Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres under the Could've Been King, that article.
edited 22nd Apr '16 6:50:11 PM by desdendelle
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The problem, ultimately, is that it deals with counterfactuals. Indeed, they even admit this.
1. Not necessarily. Keep in mind that the northern states abolished slavery pretty early on and the #1 reason why slavery wasn't abolished in the US outright much was due to the economics of the south. These economic problems would have probably have dragged the UK down if they had kept the Southern states.
2. Because the British never engaged in imperialism or colonialism, either. Again, counterfactuals come into play-we can't say with any remote certainty that the British wouldn't have just done the same thing.
3. "If you believe in redistribution"-I'm not particularly fond of it, no. Also, what it points out is exactly why the US government isn't especially likely to fall into tyranny. To refute them with their own words, the UK is able to create a tax basically on a whim that'd be much harder for the US to pull off. It arguably makes our nation somewhat more susceptible to fall into anarchy (which is not good either), but my point remains.
On a side note, it also ignores any positives that may have come out of the US becoming independent. For example: Would the UK have put a man on the moon if they had kept the US?
edited 22nd Apr '16 6:58:42 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34On a side note, didn't the US's independence inspire a lot of reforms worldwide, including the UK?
edited 22nd Apr '16 7:21:54 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34IIRC, the American revolution also helped inspire the French revolution although it would have happened anyway.
edited 22nd Apr '16 7:34:21 PM by storyyeller
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlaySince this keeps popping up everywhere...have a link to the alternate history thread
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I have problems taking that article seriously. (And it's been linked here before, sometime in the last few months.)
First of all, this is all speculative. Great when you want to discuss alternate histories, not great for discussing real life current situations and what's to be done about them. You can't turn back the clock, after all. And there's no fucking guarantee that we wouldn't have ended up with a Civil War for the same exact reasons, because Great Britain apparently didn't abolish slavery in the rest of its territories until a few decades before the Civil War, and I see no reason that the Southern States wouldn't have fought the Crown just as hard as they did in Congress.
Second, he links at least once to another article of his where he basically gushes over the monarchy and his last points are clearly running on "holy shit I love this thing" rather than on any merits Britain's monarchy and parliamentary system may have. It's a piss poor thing to do in what is supposedly a serious article. He's clearly got some fanboyism going on about the Royal family, which I don't get in Americans because it's not like they're OUR royal family.
And third, when your arguments boil down to "it wouldn't have been AS bad" for some group of people when Great Britain is basically where the US gained all their ability to be horrible from (After all, Canada has its own issues with "midnight rides" with First Nation members) and that it probably would have, in fact, being just that bad if only in different ways, then you've got what is probably a bad misunderstanding of the history of British colonialism. Or colonialism in general.
There's little in this that actually strikes me as anything other than just getting wanky about the fact that we have a less than perfect history as a country. And Royal family fanboyism. Couldn't take him seriously after those last couple of paragraphs.
I do get a feeling that the Vox writer has quite the Foreign Culture Fetish going on.
Leviticus 19:34

Conservatives aren't happy about this. Trump is supposed to wait until he snatches the nomination before he pivots to the center.
edited 22nd Apr '16 4:26:37 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
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