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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119726: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:36:54 AM

Ryan says he doesn't have the votes to pass a budget - apparently, a fight about spending levels and Ryan cannot pass a budget with Democrats because of policy clauses that no compromise can form about.

Trump terrifies world leaders. Not related, but still worth noting, the UK has recently issued a travel warning for LGBT people going to the US.

Cruz slams transgender bathroom controversy - very much pro segregation there and also criticizing Trump for calling it a non-issue. I note that bad things can happen with grown men w/ young and older boys.

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#119727: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:43:22 AM

Even with a majority, Republicans can't pass a budget due to infighting over objectives. /sigh

I wonder if Democrats could do it if they had a majority...

As for the bathroom controversy, we've noted that the number of documented cases of harassment or abuse by transgender individuals in bathrooms is exactly zero, whereas same-gender abuse is way more common than Mr. Cruz would like to discuss.

edited 21st Apr '16 11:44:43 AM by Fighteer

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119728: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:48:17 AM

Re Democratic budget: Not unless the Democratic Caucus becomes a lot more homogeneous and less fearing for the re-election of its members. Which would require some major political shifts.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#119729: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:50:42 AM

[up][up]The democrats had similar problems during the early days of Obama's administration, particularly over the ACA.

Admittedly it was a bit different because that was because of conservatives democrats as opposed to radical leftist, as opposed to the Republican's problems with the reactionary wing of their party, though that may change in the short to medium term I think.

edited 21st Apr '16 11:50:52 AM by Mio

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#119730: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:02:41 PM

There aren't that many conservative Democrats left; they got purged in the 2010 midterms.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119731: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:05:12 PM

The rest was wiped in 2014 and the few left are in blue polities.

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#119732: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:06:33 PM

With luck this whole fear Trump thing will blow over when he looses and lead to Europe making more of an effort in the alliance, so as not to be seen as freeloaders.

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#119733: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:07:21 PM

[up] What does that have to do with anything? I can't figure out where these left-field proclamations of yours come from.

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#119734: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:08:30 PM

If Trump wins I'm certain Canada will increase military spending. Turning the 49th Parallel into the world's longest minefield won't be cheap.tongue

edited 21st Apr '16 12:12:50 PM by Rationalinsanity

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#119735: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:08:49 PM

[up][up] You're assuming one thing — Europe stays united.

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#119736: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:19:31 PM

[up][up] I've made this joke before, but if Trump wins, Canada's going to need to build a wall over their southern border to keep out all the Americans flooding into their country and taking their jobs.

I wonder if Trump will be willing to pay for it.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#119737: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:20:34 PM

Do they have a trade deficit with the US? Word on the street is, a trade deficit can magically get people to pay for your stuff.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#119738: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:37:02 PM

@Fighteer, Septimus: I did not mean that the "blue dogs" would make a come back. I meant that given the general political trends and Sander's success that it is possible we could see the Democratic equivalent of the Freedom Caucus emerge. Admittedly that probably isn't something that is going to happen in the near term.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119739: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:45:24 PM

The Progressive Caucus is a thing already, but it isn't a group of fanatic obstructionists and my-way-or-the-highway politicians.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#119740: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:46:29 PM

@ Canada: We produce much of the energy for the Northeastern US. We could just cut that off.

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#119741: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:46:52 PM

This bit from the Cruz article jumped out at me.

"You've got the Obama Education Department suing to try to force junior highs to let teenage boys to shower with teenage girls," he later said

I don't know how all High Schools are, but the showers were only ever used by the Wrestling teams. Gym classes in the middle of the day don't have a showering period, at least at the one I attended.

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#119742: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:57:20 PM

In my high school some kids shower in the locker room after swimming sessions.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119743: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:57:59 PM

Here in Switzerland in our high school equivalent they were used also after regular PE at times.

Having said that, while they were unisex I find Cruz's implication that all teenage boys are potential predators questionable and highly insulting.

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#119744: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:59:06 PM

Ted Cruz, like many in the conservative movement, is projecting his own insecurities onto the general public. Gender segregation is cultural, anyway; it's not an immutable law of nature. If you raise boys apart from girls and tell them never to look, and vice versa, then when they do get a glimpse it'll cause way more problems than if they'd been raised together from the start.

[down] Same basic idea, but yes.

edited 21st Apr '16 1:02:14 PM by Fighteer

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#119745: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:01:45 PM

In some cases it's not so much insecurities as it is fantasies that they're projecting, they assume that folks would sexually harass other because that's what they'd do.

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#119746: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:06:17 PM

Point is, gender segregation is the primary reason why the problematic "Women are Unicorns" phase of male development even exists at all. Because we raise boys in an environment where girls are rare, mysterious, nigh-mythical creatures, boys grow up with that mindset.

edited 21st Apr '16 1:06:44 PM by TobiasDrake

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#119747: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:15:20 PM

Conversely, we raise girls with the expectation that boys want them primarily for sex, leading to several toxic memes:

  • Girls view their social value in terms of their sexual desirability.
  • Girls view all men as potential sexual predators.
  • Girls learn that they can get what they want by manipulating the sexual desires of men.

A related consequence not found in all groups is that girls believe that their own sexuality is shameful.

This isn't the LGBT issues thread, but my understanding is that transgender youth are not typically allowed to begin reassignment until they reach their majority, and, regardless of the preceding, that a transgender girl who is still physically a boy would continue to use the boys' facilities, for practical reasons if nothing else.

That people like Ted Cruz would interpret anti-discrimination laws as saying that a boy can get into the girls' shower by claiming to be transgender is just so completely wrong that it hurts my soul.

My hatred for that man cannot be overstated. Trump may be a racist, narcissistic, xenophobic con artist, but Cruz is evil.

edited 21st Apr '16 1:28:31 PM by Fighteer

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#119748: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:26:12 PM

Ted Cruz's campaign is selling a red hat that says "Make PC Great Again," in a shot at Donald Trump for opposing North Carolina's controversial bathroom law.

edited 21st Apr '16 1:35:35 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119749: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:34:31 PM

My hatred for that man cannot be overstated. Trump may be a racist, narcissistic, xenophobic con artist, but Cruz is evil.

Are you my sock puppet?

Good to see he's gotten comeuppance for his bastardry in NY.

Also, I am not sure that gender transition should necessarily be put off until majority, but that is really territory for LGBT issues threads.

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