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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#119701: Apr 21st 2016 at 5:48:02 AM

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Well, objectively speaking, winning the Democratic primary in Wyoming or Vermont is less important than winning the Democratic primary in South Carolina or Florida. Writing off Southern Dems is a relatively lesser sin than writing off those voters.

Sanders' biggest scalps have been Michigan and Colorado, which are important states, but I don't think Hillary has dismissed them.

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How, pray, are they doing that?

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SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#119702: Apr 21st 2016 at 6:12:41 AM

[up] Southern Democrats = Dixiecrats.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119703: Apr 21st 2016 at 6:17:30 AM

In the common perception that is. Most of them now vote Republican, the main Southern Democrats left are the minorities.

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#119704: Apr 21st 2016 at 6:42:52 AM

[up][up] Not anymore, as the letter points out, the remaining Southern Democrats are some of the most liberal in the country, after all they not going to win so they've no need to compromise.

edited 21st Apr '16 6:43:06 AM by Silasw

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#119705: Apr 21st 2016 at 6:44:02 AM

The Smug strain in American Liberalism I've seen this come up more and more as I've begun to hang around with more leftwing people. Hell I've experienced it myself. Hell it's even coloring their understanding of history, with the Democrats new found love of their former Federalists rivals, well that and Alexander Hamilton turned out to be good at rappingwink. The Federalists may have been right,hell I do kind of like them, but at the end of the day they were a party built on smugness and elitism. It's why they love John Quincy Adams, a man who came to power by blatantly subverting the will of the people. The result of this smugness amongst the Federalists and the Whigs was defeat and the destruction of their parties by the ignorant hicks they held in contempt. Andrew Jackson was their blight, and I fear unless the Democrats at least reform their tone if nothing else, Trump, or someone like him, will be theirs.

And now for something completely different The candidates in Game of Thrones Trump would probably be a Tyrell. They are outsiders, but are dealmakers like the Lanisters.

edited 21st Apr '16 6:48:03 AM by JackOLantern1337

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#119707: Apr 21st 2016 at 6:52:00 AM

He can't go one way or the other now can he? He's got to say both something progressive and something bigoted at the same time. tongue

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#119708: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:03:50 AM

Isn't Jackson still on the back of the bill anyway?

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#119709: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:06:25 AM

Southern Democrats = Dixiecrats.

What is this, 1965? The majority of Dixiecrats - and more importantly, the whites who voted for them - became Republicans after the GOP realized they could ride white Southerners' racial resentment into the White House.

The majority of Southern Democrats today are the same black people and their descendants that the Dixiecrats wanted to keep segregated.

edited 21st Apr '16 7:09:07 AM by Achaemenid

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A procrastination in of itself
#119710: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:09:23 AM

There are some left at a local level, but they're not the majority and not in charge, they're simply hold outs like Kim Davis. The last important ones got voted out in 2010.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119711: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:13:49 AM

2014 is a bit more precise. Dixiecrats have bailed far earlier in the presidential elections than the more local ones.

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#119712: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:38:01 AM

That Vox article is a load of bollocks. The reason the white working class drifted away from the Democrats in the late 20th century was resentment over civil rights, pure and simple. Now, I won't argue that liberalism didn't go to some fairly smug places in the 80s and 90s, but that wasn't what drove people away.

edited 21st Apr '16 7:41:41 AM by Fighteer

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#119713: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:13:52 AM

honestly though... when your side is the one fighting, and succeeded, in bringing in equality, while the other literally run their entire campaigns opposing it... you're allowed to be a little smug

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#119714: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:16:44 AM

My friend in NC said that she thinks Trump's real issue with the bathroom bill is that it scared businesses away from the state.

I do think it's funny that Trump said that he "probably" has transgendered people working for him. [lol] That's one way to say you're not a bigot (in that respect)!

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Lost in Space
#119715: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:18:58 AM

"I care about results. I don't check under people's clothes. Unless I'm into them, or I'm running a pageant for them."

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119716: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:31:25 AM

Trump is an immigration and straight talk anti-politics wonk. As a Swiss citizen I can say such an agenda can net you a lot of votes even without following all tenets of radical right-wing-ism.

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#119717: Apr 21st 2016 at 9:29:19 AM

got that here as well Sep, it's called "UKIP" *shudders*

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#119718: Apr 21st 2016 at 9:57:58 AM

[up] Corbyn has elements as well....

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#119719: Apr 21st 2016 at 10:04:21 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up][up]That and they got blamed for various economic and foreign policy disasters.

[up][up][up][up][up][up] It's talking more about their smugness towards the general population, and Republican voters in particular. And it's not so much thinking they are evil, it's thinking they are stupid people who don't know what's in their "self interest", or their shameless drooling about how America's future is inevitably a deindustrialized urban,though obviously a gentrified, one It's a good read, though a long one.

edited 21st Apr '16 10:06:59 AM by JackOLantern1337

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#119720: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:05:07 AM

People have been talking about supposed liberal smugness for decades now. This article isn't saying anything new or interesting.

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Lost in Space
#119721: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:06:26 AM

Don't Shoot the Message. Using liberal "smugness" as an excuse to ignore completely valid warnings about the consequences of one's actions is ... well, stupid. Justifying the point in question.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#119722: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:06:37 AM

South Park had a whole episode about it, when a Smug epidemic caused by everyone going Green threatened the West Cost

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#119723: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:11:17 AM

and San Francisco disappeared up its own arsehole

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Field Marshal of Cracked
#119725: Apr 21st 2016 at 11:26:57 AM

and of course it was rather ironic since hybrids are not all that good for the environment...

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