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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119676: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:12:02 PM

Actually, if memory serves usually Democrats win the majority of states in the presidential election.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#119677: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:16:27 PM

It's actually counties that Republicans generally win by raw numbers, since there are way more rural then urban counties.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#119678: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:17:24 PM

[up][up]Not in 1960, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, or 2004. They did in 1964, 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012. When they win, they usually win decisively, though.

edited 20th Apr '16 3:17:34 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#119679: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:25:11 PM

@Silasw: You sure about that? There's plenty of cases in congress where Sanders refused to vote for a bill he didn't believe in and was literally the only person in congress to vote against it; he's big on making a point like that, and frankly, I don't think the democrats need his help to win in November.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119680: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:26:23 PM

But they may need his help to win big in the congressional elections; Hillary is not good at enticing enthusiasm in voters.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#119681: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:28:38 PM

Statistically speaking, endorsements have virtually no impact on voter turnout, they mostly just affect where voters to.

edited 20th Apr '16 3:29:23 PM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#119682: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:45:18 PM

An endorsement is one thing; but if he actually campaigned for Clinton/congressional Democrats that could make a big difference.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#119683: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:46:27 PM

Thing is Sanders does belive in Clinton, not as much as he believes in himself, but he does belive in her.

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#119685: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:48:23 PM

That's spelling, not grammar.

Your vocabulary sucks.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#119687: Apr 20th 2016 at 3:55:11 PM

@Rational: Why would he though, ideologically there's a huge gap between the democratic party bosses and Sanders, and now that his attempted takeover of the party appeared to have failed, there's no real reason for him not to switch back to independent. God knows he's not going to get a second chance at the presidency. I would certainly hope he helps campaign for some congressional candidates, but Clinton doesn't need his help, nor do I honestly think she deserves it.

edited 20th Apr '16 3:58:40 PM by CaptainCapsase

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#119688: Apr 20th 2016 at 4:19:14 PM

You're exagersting, the gap is far from huge. The man has sat with the Democrats since forever, he may not be one but he's still gonna stump for them. He's a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, the largest internal group of Democrat congress critters. Sure he's not gonna be stumping for Blue Dogs, but he'll be out fighting for and chanlling money to the other members of the CPC, which will allow the DNC to shift funding to other races.

edited 20th Apr '16 4:21:29 PM by Silasw

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#119689: Apr 20th 2016 at 4:29:32 PM

I'd say it's about as big of a gap as exists between between (and I'm talking about the party establishments) the democrats and the Republicans. Which, when it comes to policymaking in the past twenty years or so admittedly hasn't been particularly wide on the majority of issues, social liberties being the big exception.

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A procrastination in of itself
#119690: Apr 20th 2016 at 4:36:45 PM

Yeah there's a gap, but that doesn't mean that Sanders won't campaign for folks, he'll certainly campaign for his allies in the CPC, Clinton is an unknown, he'll enforce but may not campaign, there may be to much bad blood come the end.

Sanders is only as far from the DNC as some Democrats are, there's no reason to think that he won't fight alongside thouse folks like he has done for years.

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#119691: Apr 20th 2016 at 5:51:58 PM

You'd better believe there will be candidates lining up to get a share of Sanders' remaining campaign funds, at the very least.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#119692: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:41:26 PM

Maybe Hillary could pick Bernie for her VP. That way everyone wins!

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#119693: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:48:13 PM

Highly unlikely, because now both sides want to kill Hillary.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#119694: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:56:01 PM

Uh... pretty sure that's not actually true. Hillary's got plenty of allies on the Democratic side. Not sure where you're getting this idea.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#119695: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:58:46 PM

I've said it before, Sanders and Clinton are both too old for them to run on the same ticket.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#119696: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:34:13 PM

[up][up] That was a joke-the idea would be that people would be trying to kill Hillary to get Bernie to be president.

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#119697: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:36:57 PM

Sanders for Labor Secretary?

The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday in favor of victims of terrorism and their families in a 6-2 split, clearing the way for them to collect nearly $2 billion from the central bank of Iran.

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#119698: Apr 21st 2016 at 4:13:23 AM

Southern Democrats write open letter to Bernie Sanders.

"Stop being a dick", is essentially their message.

edited 21st Apr '16 4:26:08 AM by Achaemenid

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#119699: Apr 21st 2016 at 4:36:46 AM

More specifically, "Stop making Hillary look bad, and don't use us to do it. And get behind the rest of the party." But one statement jumped out to me.

She has not dismissed the importance of states that you have won
Now I'm not 100% sure that's the case, though it very well may be that she hasn't said anything herself along those lines, and that's a smarter move on her part. But that sure as hell didn't stop other people.

edited 21st Apr '16 4:38:50 AM by Eschaton

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#119700: Apr 21st 2016 at 5:29:55 AM

They themselves should stop making the entire party look bad.

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