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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#119051: Apr 14th 2016 at 6:48:39 PM

A contested convention is basically a single candidate doesn't automatically get the nomination, isn't it? Isn't it basically "We go to the DNC and debate and give a final vote of which of us gets it"?

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#119052: Apr 14th 2016 at 6:48:49 PM

A contested convention for the Democrats just means that they superdelegates' votes actually matter. Unless there's a mass defection by superdelegates that have already pledged for Clinton, a contested convention means Clinton wins the nomination.

A contested convention for the Republicans basically means that all bets are off and anyone there can vote for whoever they want, which would be much more... "interesting".

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#119054: Apr 14th 2016 at 6:55:47 PM

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...I wonder what would happen if the Republican convention ends up going with someone who wasn't even involved in the primaries. It's unlikely certainly, but it's not impossible.

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#119055: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:01:29 PM

it's actually reasonably possible, Paul Ryan and Romney have both been mentioned. As for what would happen? The police where the Republican convention is happening have been stocking up on riot gear, so the bet is a riot if Trump looses the nomination, especially if it's the someone who didn't run.

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#119057: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:03:53 PM

I'm still debating if they'd actually be stupid enough to do that. There's no possible way they can do that without making a mockery of democracy. It's not like that's new but this would be pretty damn hard to ignore even for their own base.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#119058: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:16:55 PM

The Republican Party can survive a riot at the convention, it might not be able to survive a Trump nomination.

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#119059: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:40:45 PM

The case for brining back the WPA

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
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#119060: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:58:51 PM

This debate is getting ugly.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
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#119061: Apr 14th 2016 at 8:03:15 PM

I'd say it's rather close to a normal debate, really. Don't think I would call it ugly.

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#119062: Apr 14th 2016 at 8:33:11 PM

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the debate rather annoying to listen to? Maybe it's the crowds cheering at everything they say, the lady interrupting and saying "time's up" all the time, the thick accents, me being European, etc. but it's been giving me a bit of a headache.

edited 14th Apr '16 8:44:22 PM by Bat178

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#119063: Apr 14th 2016 at 8:56:23 PM

I found the debate stage to be tacky and too bright, but that's pretty much par the course for CNN. I was more bothered when they refused to heed the calls of moderators that their time was up than at the calls that time was up to begin with.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#119064: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:49:13 PM

Tennessee Governor vetoes the bill making the Bible the official state book. Essentially, he's offended by the dog-whistle language the legislature's using.

  • Legislature: "It's an important historical and cultural book and a major part of our state's economy! Cross my fingers! Tee-hee! (The voters'll get it.)"
  • Governor: "No. It's a sacred text. I am not devaluing the scripture of my religion just for the sake of flipping the bird at non-Christians."

“If we believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, then we shouldn’t be recognizing it only as a book of historical and economic significance,” continued Haslam. “If we are recognizing the Bible as a sacred text, then we are violating the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Tennessee by designating it as the official state book.”

edited 14th Apr '16 9:50:10 PM by Ramidel

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#119065: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:02:41 PM

What does making something the state book even mean? Is it like the state bird, or state flower?

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#119066: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:13:33 PM

I think so.

The only reason Tennessee is doing it is for the purpose of engaging in dog-whistle politics of the "we are a Christian state" variety.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#119067: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:26:37 PM

Personally, I think it's slightly blashphemous to declare the Bible your state book. In fact, shouldn't it be a book from your own state?

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#119068: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:39:44 PM

The idea, I think, is that Nashville is the Bible-publishing capital of America.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#119069: Apr 14th 2016 at 11:03:28 PM

"They want to do something horrible, and they need a justification, regardless if it's any good or not, to convince themselves that what they're doing is right or justifiable. You see justifications used by criminals and bullies all the time. It's never their fault. The victim deserved it. No matter what, it's justified."

Oh, the good fashion moral myopia, the idea tha as long is me or my crew, EVERYTHING is necesary or being aceptable, the general point is "I can do whatever the hell I want but you dont"

Also as a venezuelan I just want to said something....the more I read about trump, the more he look a lot like chavez: the atack on the establishment, the idea that your are a messiah because you are outside of that establishment....somehow, the whole "Fuck the law,fuck the state I want my country good" now he is moving into the phase of "Politics is boring and Im cool" I cant wait where this is going

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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#119070: Apr 14th 2016 at 11:38:16 PM

One of my German online friends says he's heard about Trump in college and says the teacher "hoped that America will not make our grave mistake, of trusting an amoral political outsider with power."

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#119071: Apr 15th 2016 at 12:26:58 AM

[up] Yeah, I think between Trump and the current shenanigans in Eastern Europe people over here are getting really anxious now. :/

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#119072: Apr 15th 2016 at 12:51:40 AM

Random question. I wonder how possible it would be for the appropriate federal agencies to label the NRA as a viral marketing campaign and regulate it under the rules for commercial speech, instead of political speech?

wild mass guessAfter all, the point of the NRA isn't actually to prevent legislation from being passed, it's to fearmonger so that the loony bin will be convinced that the gubmint is gonna take away their guns (which makes them buy more guns, strangely enough).wild mass guess

edited 15th Apr '16 12:52:00 AM by Ramidel

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#119073: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:04:05 AM

(Vox) 2 winners and 3 losers of Thursday's Democratic primary debate

Winners:

  • Sanders for managing to basically managing to unwaveringly criticize Hillary multiple times for fracking, AIPAC, humilating her about Goldman-Sachs, taking the energy of the audience from her, and attacking her and her husband for Super-Predators.

  • Fight for 15 (the push for a much higher minimum wage in the US), as Hillary swore if any 15 dollar minimum wage was put in front of her, she'd sign it.

Losers:

  • Hillary for getting rocked so many times by Sanders on substantive issuse and finding her attacks less and less effective. The longer Sanders stays in the race, the more she ties herself to American leftwing political views that could hurt her in the General, is the general fear here.

  • The New Democrats as their era of centrist authority is slowly but surely being chipped away at and Democratic voters keep shifting left.

  • Policy Wonks / Economic Professors, as many researchers and professors think 15 dollar minimum wages are absurd, and potentially severely dangerous to the U.S. economy, and it would be better handled shooting for 10 to 12 dollars. And are increasingly finding themselves ignored by a public that doesn't want "sensible results".

edited 15th Apr '16 5:04:53 AM by PotatoesRock

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#119074: Apr 15th 2016 at 6:35:37 AM

Blah, blah, populism = confirming biases. I have kind of given up on watching the debates because they just make me angry. If anything genuinely interesting happens, the news will report it.

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#119075: Apr 15th 2016 at 6:43:34 AM

Don't you mean they won't report it?

edited 15th Apr '16 6:47:44 AM by Xopher001


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