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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Following that same analogy, many people in large cities don't own cars because the hassle isn't worth it when other forms of transportation are more efficient. Regional considerations are apt; I wouldn't deny a rancher the ability to protect his property against predatory animals, but I would still want him to get a damn license so we have some certainty that he isn't going to accidentally shoot his neighbor's head off.
Even Libertarianism (other than the hardcore anarcho- flavors) admits the need for a State to enforce negative freedoms: e.g., to prevent neighbors from shooting each other.
edited 8th Apr '16 6:27:50 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The interpretation of the Second Amendment is obviously key to this whole issue. The question of whether the clause "well-regulated" permits the government to control who can and cannot own and use a firearm is pretty important; semantically, it conflicts with "shall not be infringed".
edited 8th Apr '16 9:07:41 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"So Paul Krugman has been complaining about Sanders's tone on Clinton
, but he's also mentioned something about how Clinton voters perceive scandals that caught my eye:
I've suspected for a while that non-white voters may be less trusting in scandal narratives and this may contribute to why they are voting for Clinton in the Democratic primary and will presumably support her in the general election.
I also agree with Krugman's analysis that the Sanders campaign needs to keep the negative campaigning in the primary to a minimum, if at all.
edited 8th Apr '16 9:38:40 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIn fairness there does seem to be be a narrative around Clinton that basically goes "The Republicans have faked a bunch of scandals and negativity, thus all scandals and negativity about Clinton is fake".
It's the baby being throw out with the bathwater, just because you've been lied to about someone being bad doesn't meant you refuse to believe that they could be bad, it means you apply your dam brain and determine fact from fiction.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThere's only so many times you can hear that darn brat screaming about made-up wolves before you quit reacting and just let him get eaten.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@Silasw: Well, it is very difficult to take any Obama or Clinton scandal seriously given the unending stream of borderline character assassination that comes from the right, the noise completely drowns out the signal. Sort of a crying wolf problem there.
Wall St is pretty certain Hillary Clinton will be president
. Prediction markets give Hillary a 70% chance of being the next president. And for the benefit of Sanders supporters, she's also considered a "devil we know" by a lot of folks there - not exactly a Wall Street stooge evidently.
I see the narrative with Clinton being mostly a result of Crying Wolf - Congressional Republicans have been shrieking about her and other powerful Democrats so often, and so loudly that it's now being treated as white noise.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"The thing about the Clinton's "scandals" is that they prove that the Republicans are crying wolf. Bernie Sanders, thankfully, is not a Republican. It would be like ignoring a child crying wolf because a completely unrelated child on the other side of town kept crying wolf.
edited 8th Apr '16 10:34:43 AM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyHonestly i wouldn't be surprised if some people are tuning out negative things about Clinton entirely because the Republicans have been pounding on her reputation hard for two years and more. There's only so much of that you can take before you just get fucking tired of it. (Although my brother had apparently bought it hook, line, and sinker and when I disputed him on that he asked if I got my information from Fox News. To say my mind boggled is an understatement. He also thought Sanders was Ralph Nader for some reason.)
That said Sanders hasn't said anything that bad about her, although that may be about to change since things are getting closer together. I hope not, I kind of liked the Democratic debate being dignified and civilized. Guess we'll see what happens at the next debate.
Several unrelated children. When several children cry wolf, people grow numb to the cry instead of the child.
People on both sides of social justice have had to deal with that exact phenomenon countless times.
edited 8th Apr '16 10:48:08 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.A gang of kids on the other side of town have been fake crying wolf, fine ignore the lot of them, but when one of the few kids not part of that group starts saying there's a wolf maybe we should listen?
The Republcians crying wolf aren't unrelated, they're all part of the same group, refuse to believe the group fine, but people shouldn't refuse to believe that wolves can attack.
edited 8th Apr '16 10:55:06 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThis metaphor is in danger of running away from you guys.
But yeah, after hearing one group make a particular complaint for a while, it can be a bit difficult to take it seriously from a different group. The bias has already been formed, the mental defenses erected. At that point it takes active listening which you have to choose to do.
Why Ted Cruz faces tough slog in winning over New York
and Poll: Trump has commanding 34-point lead in New York
. Seems like Cruz "Wisconsin momentum" may run out rather quickly - lots of things to dislike him over, there.
So, apparently in response to the scuffle/arrest during last week's Arizona Primary hearings (and not because of House Speaker David Gowan having an axe to grind against a reporter who'd been critical of him), Arizona recently passed legislation calling for reporters to have criminal background checks if they want to be permitted access beyond the public gallery
.
Way to be classy, Arizona. I'm so proud.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

In most of the country a car is necessary for people to exercise their right to freely assemble, yet I never see anyone clamoring to let a guy with 20 DWIs drive without restriction, nor anyone advocating for children under 10 to be able to drive so they can practice their rights without the say so of the government.
Strange, that.
But while I'm all about the guns should be treated like cars thing, I think it is worth adding a caveat that both life and the need for guns is different in very rural areas, (between dealing with animals and being a hell of a long way from police) and as such would allow for looser rules/restrictions in those areas. (There could then be regular reviews of whether the area should keep that looser designation, or if it has changed and been built up enough so it no longer applies.)
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