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SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#118326: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:00:25 PM

[up] Yeah, it's kinda wonky and pointless. If they're biologically the parent, how can they not claim to be the parent?

edited 5th Apr '16 6:01:34 PM by SciFiSlasher

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#118327: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:09:03 PM

Well, lots of people claim not to be the parent to get out of parental obligations like child support. Many probably refuse to take DNA tests. But the point here is that rapists shouldn't be entrusted with children, even when they are the parent. Actually, especially if they are the parent. Which was likely the primary factor in sponsoring a bill to prevent just that. So no, it's not wonky and pointless.

In any case, most of the complaints I've hears about DWS is specifically about how she's handling all this primary stuff. Other than that I don't know anything about her so far all I know she's done a lot of good unrelated to her position as chairwoman of the DNC.

edited 5th Apr '16 6:09:51 PM by AceofSpades

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#118328: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:22:59 PM

But if you can prove they're a rapist shouldn't they be in jail anyway? I'd think that would render the matter moot.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#118329: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:27:23 PM

[up] They aren't gonna be in jail forever though. I don't think rape gives life sentences.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#118330: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:27:52 PM

I'd assume it would be an after they got out situation.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#118331: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:28:28 PM

It's still a violent felony. That should make you automatically ineligible for parental rights in my opinion.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#118332: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:32:41 PM

Cruz just won the Wisconsin primary. George Stephanopolus (I know I didn't spell that right) is reporting it right now on ABC.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#118333: Apr 5th 2016 at 6:35:52 PM

[up][up]Careful with that, there are plenty of reformed criminals with children.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#118334: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:00:42 PM

Damn. That hurts the Donald's chances of getting to 1237.

Kasich can win Ohio, that's his entire bid for getting through a brokered convention, and it should be worth looking at, but the problem is if he can get the GOP more sway in any other swing states, since they need a lot of them to overcome the Dems' electoral advantage.

Plus Kasich's largely cruised by without a lot of scrutiny, though, so the attack ads would fly fierce in the general.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#118335: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:09:29 PM

Huh. Grayson's actually currently the representative for my district, but honestly it doesn't particularly surprise me that he's the subject of an ethics investigation. He's always struck me as a bit sleazy. Patrick Murphy (the current representative for Palm Beach, also a Democrat) who is likely to be the Democratic candidate for Florida senator (replacing Rubio, who declined to run for reelection in order to focus on his presidential campaign) should Grayson not run, I don't know much about beyond the fact that he was the guy who beat out Tea Party nutjob Allen West for his district.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#118336: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:16:25 PM

Sanders just took Wisconsin.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#118337: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:21:31 PM

It's all going to be about the margin of victory. It does practically nothing for him if it's essentially a 50/50 split. But if it's a big win, he may still be in this for real after all. It's starting to get my hopes up just slightly.

*Fingers crossed*

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#118338: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:23:29 PM

This win won't win Bernie a decisive amount of delegates, tonight was about momentum for him.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#118339: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:30:57 PM

Yeah, it undermines Hillary's image if he keeps winning one primary after another. New York is going to be the big one though, because if he wins it will either bring him close to even with Hillary or bring her further out of his reach.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#118340: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:34:29 PM

How does it help his momentum if his winning was no surprise and not particularly helpful?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#118342: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:46:32 PM

[up]That is a pretty huge part of politics.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#118343: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:58:57 PM

[up][up][up] IIRC, up until a week or so ago, Clinton was projected to win the state, but a yuuuuge Sanders surge tipped it in his favor.

edited 5th Apr '16 8:00:18 PM by Blueeyedrat

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#118345: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:05:37 PM

[up]Which is why we should just let me decide who's president!

I promise I won't elect someone like Ted Cruz!

I'll elect him, not someone like him. Mwahahahaha.

edited 5th Apr '16 8:07:08 PM by Protagonist506

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#118346: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:06:08 PM

[up][up] You don't know the half of it. I just learned how Wisconsin delegates are given out.

In the Republican primary there are three kinds of delegates. Wisconsin has 42 delegates. Delegate selection is a “winner-take-all” system, both by district and statewide.

The breakdown: 42 total delegates: 24 from Wisconsin's eight Congressional Districts; 10 base at-large; five bonus; three party

1. Congressional District delegates: Delegates are selected by the party in the Congressional Districts they represent and must reside there. Each of the state's eight Congressional Districts is allocated three delegates.

2. At-large delegates: Delegates that are selected statewide. Each state gets 10 delegates and the RNC awards bonus delegates in states that meet certain criteria, including whether it has a Republican governor, Republican U.S. Senator and a Republican majority in the state Legislature.

3. Republican National Committee delegates: Each state’s three RNC members, including the state chair, national committeeman and national committeewoman are automatically national convention delegates.

In the Democratic primary, there are four kinds of delegates. Wisconsin has 96 total delegates going to the convention; 86 of them are “pledged” which means they are tied to primary votes. Delegate selection is a proportional system, which means district level-delegates are apportioned among top vote getters by district while at-large delegates are apportioned among top vote getters statewide by percentage of vote received above a certain threshold.

The breakdown: 57 Congressional District delegates; 10 pledged Party Leaders and Elected Officials; 10 unpledged PLE Os or superdelegates; 19 at-large

1. Congressional District delegates: Wisconsin has a total of 52 district-level delegates and five alternates. Each Congressional District is allotted a percentage of those delegates based on the 2012 and 2014 Democratic performance in that district.

2. Pledged Party Leader and Election Official delegates: Delegates including large city mayors, state legislative leaders, state legislators and other local party leaders

3. Unpledged PLE Os: Delegates including members of the Democratic National Committee who legally reside in the state and all of Wisconsin’s Democratic Members of the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. These delegates are probably better known as "superdelegates." Superdelegates aren't required to adhere to the results of the state's primary election, meaning they can vote for their candidate of choice, not necessarily the winner of the primary.

4. At-large delegates and alternates: Delegates elected by the Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s Administrative Committee. People not chosen for delegate will then be considered candidates for at-large alternate positions unless they specify otherwise when filing.

WHY IS THIS SYSTEM SO COMPLICATED?

edited 5th Apr '16 8:09:14 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#118347: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:26:02 PM

It would be so much better to just do away with the Electoral College. But those in charge probably wouldnt like that. speaking of those in charge,

I had no idea this was a thing. It sounds like hell

edited 5th Apr '16 8:27:30 PM by Xopher001

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job

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