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#118001: Mar 31st 2016 at 7:46:11 PM

I really can't wait for the shitshow that is the GOP convention.
This is why the more cynical part of me really really wants them to allow open carry there.

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#118002: Mar 31st 2016 at 7:54:20 PM

US Presidents, before and after.

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#118003: Mar 31st 2016 at 7:58:52 PM

New report by the Pew Research Center is out, "Campaign Exposes Fissures Over Issues, Values and How Life Has Changed in the U.S."

Lots of interesting numbers, the whole thing is worth a read.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#118004: Mar 31st 2016 at 8:42:17 PM

[up][up][up] Well of course Trump's SA needs open carry! How else are they gonna intimidate people into signing on to Trump as the nominee?

By now its become evident that Trump's policies are whatever he says any given moment rather than any established party orthodoxy or religious dogma. Which is why I would prefer Der Trumpenfuhrer over the American Ayatollah / El Diablo.

And I must admit, its thrilling that for one California might be an influential state in the final outcome.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#118005: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:28:43 PM

Robert Reich: Why The Major Media Marginalize Bernie: Because they live in their own bubble

Basically, no conspiracy, just the Beltway Bubble is as bad as the RW Mediasphere at being aware of reality. (No, not that Sanders is actually winning, but they ignore a lot of the effects causing him and other 'Black Swan' events because it doesn't their accepted narrative. Hence why 538's been mediocre recently.)

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#118006: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:50:31 PM

A group led by backers of Hillary Clinton filed three complaints Tuesday with the Federal Election Commission against Sen. Bernie Sanders and two super PACs that support him.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
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#118007: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:30:32 AM

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538 only really dropped the ball on Michigan, and that had a huge amount to do with the lack of polling there. Their demographic analysis of the Dem race has been pretty spot on.

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#118008: Apr 1st 2016 at 6:47:55 AM

Mathematically, it is extraordinarily implausible for Sanders to win the nomination at this point, regardless of what any particular press outlet wants to believe.

Edit: From Rachel Maddow: Donald Trump went on Fox News yesterday and claimed that his town hall interview with Chris Matthews, in which he infamously stated his belief that women should be punished for seeking abortions, was selectively edited; however, MSNBC has proof that it aired the entire interview without modification.

edited 1st Apr '16 6:50:24 AM by Fighteer

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#118009: Apr 1st 2016 at 6:54:36 AM

What would they gain from editing it anyway?

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#118010: Apr 1st 2016 at 6:56:43 AM

[up]Putting words in his mouth to discredit him?

To be fair, MSNBC has selectively edited things before to push a particular agenda. They don't seem to be doing it now, though.

edited 1st Apr '16 6:59:31 AM by Protagonist506

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#118011: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:12:05 AM

[up] As if the words he's already spewing aren't enough. Trump could rape a baby on live television and it still wouldn't discredit him among his voters.

edited 1st Apr '16 7:12:27 AM by Luminosity

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#118012: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:23:24 AM

[up]Yes, Trump has passed a certain Tyson Zone, where it's hard to parody and exaggerate what he does. You can't really find any skeletons in his closet, because they're on his lawn. Nonetheless, it doesn't stop him from trying.

However, he probably couldn't get away actually shooting someone, unless he finds a way to spin it as self defense-which is likely what would happen.

edited 1st Apr '16 7:23:35 AM by Protagonist506

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#118013: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:46:58 AM

If the Republicans have it in for Muslims and Mexicans migrating to the US, would they have it against Filipinos?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#118014: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:00:14 AM

Most would probably ask what a Filipino was.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#118015: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:11:10 AM

Speaking as a Republican, I'd say that most Republicans just dislike illegal immigration in general, regardless of the person's nationality/former nationality (many are just fine with legal immigration, however-indeed, I've seen several conservatives who've declared that illegal immigration is an insult to legal immigration). Fillipinos would get the same treatment in theory.

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#118016: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:19:52 AM

I saw a headline saying that Scott Walker thinks Ted Cruz will unite the Republican party.

How? He's a fundamentalist, and the party itself is divided between the libertarians, the fundies, the Dixiecrats (many of whom see Sanders as a viable second choice) and the business class/establishment.

I think back to my dad telling me that he saw a Republican on TV say that the frequent focus on cutting taxes for the wealthy is very much the opposite of what many Republican supporters want. Hell, I saw an editorial from a conservative say something like "cutting taxes for the rich and welcoming illegal immigrants is the equivalent of trying to win the gay vote by telling them you'll bring back anti-sodomy laws".

I can see people voting for Cruz because they see him as the lesser of two evils between him and a Democrat, but a fundy who fails to understand the divisions in his party and why they exist will not heal them in the long term.

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#118017: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:29:10 AM

[up] Very much so.

[up][up] The problem with the stance on illegal immigration is that these people self-evidently are here, and they will continue to try to come here as long as their home countries are hellish nightmares of deprivation and violence. Building walls and increasing deportations and freezing them out of public services is like the Dutch boy plugging the dike with his fingers. It doesn't work.

People who argue for pathways to citizenship, amnesty, reform of immigration laws, and the like, are not condoning illegal acts; they are acknowledging that the problem simply defies those laws. It has some interesting parallels with the War on Drugs and attempts to ban abortion: people will continue to do these things whether you allow them or not, and forbidding them only drives the acts underground and causes them to become more dangerous and more crime-ridden.

What is missing from the official Republican position is any recognition of the nuances of the situation: how our money spent to buy drugs fuels the violence and corruption that causes people to migrate to the U.S.; how free-trade agreements like NAFTA have not addressed either our own industrial protectionism or helped the member nations improve their own internal distribution of wealth; how immigrants are not, in fact, harming the fabric of our society as so many claim; how illegals are currently key to the business models of many U.S. industries, such that they will not back a mass deportation scheme.

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#118018: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:33:50 AM

Well, Trump is going to make a lot of Republicans who don't have safe seats run away in fear. And Kasich is too moderate for the current GOP crowd - see that Medicaid expansion for an example.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#118019: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:43:18 AM

I think most people can agree that massive amounts of illegal immigration is a bad thing. The point of contention is whether the solution to that is massive deportation efforts, or making legal immigration easier so people don't need to immigrate illegally.

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#118020: Apr 1st 2016 at 8:48:14 AM

Another point of contention is if the illegal immigration is actually happening on a massive scale.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#118021: Apr 1st 2016 at 9:47:28 AM

And what most of the illegal immigration actually is. Tons, possibly most, of it is people getting a valid work visa, getting a job, and just staying too long. The number of people who try and sneak in is actually really low.

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#118022: Apr 1st 2016 at 9:55:47 AM

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Tons, possibly most, of it is people getting a valid work visa, getting a job, and just staying too long.

Or coming in under Education Visas, sometimes to bogus Colleges.

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#118023: Apr 1st 2016 at 10:05:06 AM

However, he probably couldn't get away actually shooting someone, unless he finds a way to spin it as self defense-which is likely what would happen.

I don't see why he couldn't. President Jackson loved shooting people and we celebrate the crazy old bastard for it. We look back at the time Secret Service had to pull the President off the would-be assassin he was beating half to death with his cane as a demonstration of why he's one of our most awesome Presidents.

Americans love violence.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#118024: Apr 1st 2016 at 10:14:10 AM

[up] But that can be spun as self-defense. If he had just gone after a random guy who happened to be standing nearby, it would be horrifying.

And the shootings were duels. Duels are a terrible set-up, but they were legal and allowed. They are no longer legal.

edited 1st Apr '16 10:15:14 AM by Zendervai

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