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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#117926: Mar 31st 2016 at 7:52:45 AM

Yeah, shaming the RNC aside he's probably gonna piss off a lot of the Republican voter base by revealing the truth that the Iraq war was bunk.

Oh really when?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#117927: Mar 31st 2016 at 7:53:54 AM

"The Iraq war was a load of bunk. It was run by losers. Elect me, and I'll wage great wars. Winning wars. Yuuge wars."

edited 31st Mar '16 7:54:19 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#117929: Mar 31st 2016 at 8:05:56 AM

The countries he wins wars against, of course.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#117930: Mar 31st 2016 at 8:26:13 AM

So, quite possibly. tongue

edited 31st Mar '16 8:26:46 AM by Balmung

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#117931: Mar 31st 2016 at 8:32:57 AM

From how I read it, it's more that Clinton was informed of it while she was Secretary of State, and chose not to pass that information along to, say, the FBI or DOJ to investigate the companies State-side that were dealing with Unaoil. The emails obtained have no bearing on the invasion itself, but speak volumes about what was done in the aftermath to them.

And one thing that I barely picked out is that, in one particular transaction, Unaoil used an inside contact to block a contractor's bid so that they could come to the same contractor and offer their aid.

“Lighthouse” [Dhia Jaffar] paid Unaoil back, providing inside information and tipping the company off to potential customers. “In general discussion with Mr. Lighthouse this evening, it transpired that TPIC” — Turkish Petroleum International Company — “is close to winning an order of $325m for drilling 45 wells in south of Iraq,” Al Jarah wrote in a August 2009 email to Ata and Cyrus Ahsani. “He says they applied openly and he is not aware of any special connection to an Iraqi entity pushing their bid forward. I immediately requested Lighthouse to hold processing anything until he hears from me. We need to move urgently to reach this company and give them the full works that Unaoil can make their life easier in the Ministry, SOC.”

So not only were they greasing the wheels for various companies, they actually made it so they had to be contacted to grease the wheels, Mafia-style.

edited 31st Mar '16 8:34:46 AM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
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Vampire Hunter
#117932: Mar 31st 2016 at 9:35:36 AM

Actually, Trump has also shown himself against the Iraq War and very critical of George W. Bush's handling of it. And Trump, not being involved in these events, can easily call out both the Republican Establishment and Hillary Clinton in one swift move. He would be something like "The poor handling of the Iraq War via the corruption of the Establishment on both sides led to the rise of ISIS! If I'm President, corruption like this will never be allowed to happen, and I will also destroy ISIS. Vote for me and I will Make America Great Again!"

Well, I imagine it being more Trump-like, but this scandal fits with Trump's narrative.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#117933: Mar 31st 2016 at 9:38:06 AM

IIRC, Trump was actually supporting a war with Iraq a year before one actually happened.

Leviticus 19:34
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#117934: Mar 31st 2016 at 9:39:41 AM

Hence, "poor handling of the Iraq War" and not "the Iraq War was a mistake," the latter being what I actually believe.

edited 31st Mar '16 9:41:34 AM by GameGuruGG

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#117935: Mar 31st 2016 at 10:46:42 AM

Kasich calls the the promise by the GOP to repeal Obamacare stupid.

“Do you realize that that’s just a big joke?” the GOP presidential candidate asked. "It got all these conservatives stirred up and angry because they didn’t keep their word."

“I mean, what a stupid promise. The base of the party is furious because you didn’t repeal Obama Care. How are you going to repeal Obama Care when Obama’s president?”

...

Kasich’s expansion of Medicaid under Obama Care in Ohio has angered some conservative voters.

Critics say his move neither reduces the size of government nor curbs wasteful entitlement spending.

...

Kasich has also charged that he expanded Medicaid in Ohio on moral grounds, suggesting it helps drug abusers, the poor and the mentally ill.

“Now, when you die and get to that meeting with St. Peter, he’s probably not going to ask you what you did about keeping government small,” he said in 2013. "But he is going to ask you what you did for the poor. And you better have a good answer."

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#117936: Mar 31st 2016 at 10:47:54 AM

[up]He dangerously sounds like a decent human being there.

Must be a trick.

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#117937: Mar 31st 2016 at 10:54:55 AM

Kasich likely understands that Obamacare is never going to get repealed, and that its repeal should not be promised if Trump is the ultimate result.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117938: Mar 31st 2016 at 10:56:12 AM

The abortion laws he signed though are not so good.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#117939: Mar 31st 2016 at 10:58:55 AM

Kasich, actually, from what I hear, is a lot more moderate than most Republicans, and has been called a decent guy by many liberals. His main flaw is his love of the gold standard.

My dad told me this morning that he saw a Republican on TV say, "We've been ignoring what the voters want, pulling this 'lower taxes on the rich' crap, while at the same time the average person has been making less and less and having a harder and harder time feeding their family." Not exact words, but that idea. Not that I expect the Republican party to get it.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#117940: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:11:21 AM

[up]Guy opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest. He's just better at hiding the corrupt and crazy than the rest of the field.

What's precedent ever done for us?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117941: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:15:12 AM

~Iaculus: What does El Diablo say about abortion?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Field Marshal of Cracked
#117942: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:42:58 AM

Trump? he's flip flopping on abortion

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117943: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:44:53 AM

No, Cruz. I am calling him El Diablo because he's the worst one of that bunch.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#117944: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:48:28 AM

Ironically, I was playing Tropico 4 the other day, and there is a character called El Diablo...who sounds exactly like Trump.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#117945: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:55:47 AM

El Diablo is an awesome Hispanic superhero and his name shouldn't be assosiated with that asshat.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#117946: Mar 31st 2016 at 11:59:29 AM

The fact that Trump was pro abortion was thrown about quite a bit at the beginning of his campaign (to show off his supposedly liberal values) but recently he's said some awful stuff about punishing women who go get them. So. Flip flopper of the most extreme. Not that I expect that sort of consistency from Trump; he's all about what gets him attention, what gets eyeballs and news reporters on him. Not ideological or policy consistency.

DarrenFox Aquatic Vulpine from somewhere where there's lots of water Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#117948: Mar 31st 2016 at 12:28:22 PM

Already posted. Still terrible. Still probably going to get taken care of pretty fast.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#117950: Mar 31st 2016 at 12:31:07 PM

Trump's abortion position? The usual - incoherent word soup that somehow manages to seriously offend and alienate everyone on every side of the argument while spiking his primary poll numbers even higher. Seriously, check out the transcript of anything he says - the recent abortion punishment fiasco is a nice starter, as is this interview on his foreign policy views. At this point, I'd say it's a fool's errand to chart out Trump's exact policy stance on anything - it's only relevant in that the most seriously awful stuff he says is being used as an endorsement by people with far scarier and more coherent ideologies.

edited 31st Mar '16 12:34:46 PM by Iaculus

What's precedent ever done for us?

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