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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#117626: Mar 28th 2016 at 2:25:58 PM

@ Garcon: Downtown Belfast was fine. The Ardoyne area wasn't.

edited 28th Mar '16 2:28:18 PM by Greenmantle

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#117627: Mar 28th 2016 at 2:33:13 PM

So, the Capitol Building shooter has been tentatively identified as Larry Russell Dawson, who made an appearance describing himself as a "Prophet of God" last year at the House.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#117628: Mar 28th 2016 at 2:51:30 PM

After that, the last time an actual nation-state hit American soil was Pearl Harbor.

Actually, the last last time another nation state attacked American soil and actually occupied was when the Japanese invaded the Aleutian Islands in 1942 and occupied Attu and Kiska until 1943.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#117629: Mar 28th 2016 at 2:54:34 PM

Which bring up another point about why a shooting with politicians/the Capitol as a potential target makes no legislation waves; everyone crazy enough to try so far has been certifiably crazy in other ways and easy to write off. (Gabby Giffords and her husband do now campaign for moderate gun control laws of the background and psych check sort but Giffords was one of the shrinking number of moderate Republicans in Congress even before that.)

[up]Ok, the last one anyone not from Alaska or a serious military history buff remembers. :P I don't remember that detail from any history classes.

edited 28th Mar '16 2:57:29 PM by Elle

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#117630: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:04:10 PM

[up] Its not in most school history books as well.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117631: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:05:23 PM

It is in Wikipedia and Swiss school history books (if memory serves) however.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#117632: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:06:07 PM

[up][up]

Just to point out, but Giffords is a Democrat, not Republican.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#117633: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:10:30 PM

Oops, you're right. She was still an Arizona legislator who opposed gun bans while in office, however.

Edit: DOJ drops case against Apple, having got access without their help. The official statement cites the assistance of an unnamed third party.

Edit 2: Evening news is on here and the mention of the veto of the Georgia bill also mentioned that one of the companies threatening action was Coca Cola. Given that they were founded in Atlanta and are a major part of the culture there I imagine that was a Pretty Big Deal.

edited 28th Mar '16 3:48:12 PM by Elle

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#117635: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:49:34 PM

This is all so incredibly petty,

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#117636: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:51:08 PM

Though this could help the Dems retake the Senate, if they try to run Tea Party nutters in swing states.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117637: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:52:05 PM

They'll need to step up their game in the money primary, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#117638: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:02:32 PM

So I hear Sanders has been doing a lot of sweeping, despite derisive "Public confuses small bird with 800 delegates" jokes. Will he catch up to Clinton?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#117639: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:09:00 PM

Depends if he can take New York and California, and so such. One argument's been made that Sanders' has been doing so poorly so far because many of the early states are more conservative in voting tendencies (not necessarily Republican but more reserved), and thus more inclined to lean Hillary.

Basically there is the potential but at this point it would take a LONG shot. Like. Hail Mary in American Football tiers of long shot.

Basically he swept Alaska (A frontier state if any, which has a lot of semi-Socialist policies for varying reasons), Washington (which is at the forefront of a lot of Sanders' policies) and Hawaii (not too sure on why he did Hawaii so well).

Sanders might do well in California since Oregon, Washington and California while not exactly the same, have some sweeping similarities in terms of culture.

New York is more of a toss-up, IMO. Hillary served as a 1 and 1/3rd term Senator for the state (meaning there was reason for her to be liked/voted in repeatedly), however, the Democratic Rump Partner in New York, The Working Family Party, has overwhelmingly gone in favor of Sanders. On the other-other hand, the state Democratic machine (including Cuomo) is more likely to ally with Clinton. But the base in New York City bounced centrist Democrats off the ticket in favor of De Blasio.

So.

???

edited 28th Mar '16 4:16:29 PM by PotatoesRock

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#117640: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:16:32 PM

He needs to win Florida, California and other big states by substantial margins to catch up in the delegate count. And then he has to hope that the Super Delegates respect the views of the voters, though if they are called upon to break a tie...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#117641: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:24:46 PM

Florida's primary was two weeks ago — Clinton won with about 2/3rds to Sanders' 1/3. The only big primary states left are New York (April 19th, 247 delegates), Pennsylvania (April 26th, 187 delegates), and California (June 7th, 475(!) delegates) and New Jersey (also June 7th, 126 delegates). Everything other than that has less than 100.

edited 28th Mar '16 4:25:08 PM by NativeJovian

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#117642: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:37:52 PM

[up][up][up] Washington, Oregon and California are all part of the West Coast, so cultural similarities to be expected, though nobody really cares about Oregon.

edited 28th Mar '16 4:38:15 PM by Bat178

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#117643: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:40:34 PM

The thing that gets me about this whole Supreme Court Justice thing isn't how blatantly obstructionist it is (you'll never convince me we'd even be having this issue if the President were Republican) but it seems excessive because I'd think it'd be easier to stall by agreeing to the hearings and then just finding some excuse to deny the person. At least then there'd be an appearance of legitimacy behind their actions vs this situation.

EDIT: The linked article does address this towards the end, actually. Stating he'd be criticized no matter what and not having the hearings at all probably is in McConnel's own best interests if i'm understanding right.

edited 28th Mar '16 4:45:20 PM by sgamer82

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#117644: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:05:49 PM

A population full of discontented people who don't like the establishment along with a radical segment who support violence
Pretty sure we've got a good chunk of those already in the military. Yet we haven't broken out in military coups.
Which would be tricky for the military depending on how justifiable or not their grevience was. Ordering troops to shoot on your own citizens is never pretty, nor conducive to discipline.
It would honestly depend heavily on the reasons behind the insurrection. The places most likely to revolt in Civil War II are also the places that provide the greatest percent of recruits, but at the same time that doesn't mean that the military is more likely to side with the people under revolt.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#117645: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:07:39 PM

[up][up][up][up]Whoops, I meant New York there.

He should do decently in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, though probably not enough to close the gap. And even splitting California gets Clinton about half of the delegates she needs to win it all.

Not sure about New York, Clinton is decently popular there and there are quite a few minorities there that usually give her wins elsewhere.

edited 28th Mar '16 5:13:55 PM by Rationalinsanity

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#117646: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:29:36 PM

So I hear Sanders has been doing a lot of sweeping, despite derisive "Public confuses small bird with 800 delegates" jokes. Will he catch up to Clinton?

I think he'd still have to win about 60% of the remaining delegates, (to get that high a percentage, he'll need to win every remaining state by close to the margin that he did in Hawaii, where it was essentially 70-30 in his favor) and even he may need some help from the superdelegates, so the odds are pretty terrible. Not impossible, technically, but certainly not a position you'd want to be in.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#117647: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:40:05 PM

@Rational: I don't think Superdelegates are obligated to vote the same way as voters like regular delegates are. In fact several super delegates appear to have already given support to one or other of the candidates. Like, they're explicitly not tied to the primary/caucus system. I'm not really sure why any of that is organized like it is, the whole process just seems increasingly arcane to me.

In fact I've asked about how super delegates work here before and no one actually gave me an answer. So I'm assuming some kind of witchcraft.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#117648: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:41:49 PM

It's fairly simple. Superdelegates are people who have been selected to that status by the Democratic party apparatus, usually as favors for service, seniority, or whatever. They are allowed to give their vote to any candidate they want and are not locked in by the popular vote in their state. Instead, candidates vie for their favor on a personal level.

edited 28th Mar '16 5:42:11 PM by Fighteer

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#117649: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:46:15 PM

They vote for whoever they want.

This always happens to be the one with the most normal delegates, for the blindingly obvious reason of not wanting to fuck themselves over by dividing the party.

They're annoyingly pointless.


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