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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#117101: Mar 23rd 2016 at 6:36:14 PM

Do Marvel or Disney even film movies in NC?

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#117102: Mar 23rd 2016 at 6:36:34 PM

Well, that's another state I'm never going to.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#117103: Mar 23rd 2016 at 6:38:18 PM

No, Disney were gonna ban filming in Georgia for their similar measures. People film all the time in Atlanta.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#117104: Mar 23rd 2016 at 6:51:09 PM

[up]

Ah, that was the one - apparently more than one Southern State is pulling this shit, even after Tennessee got smacked down by public opinion for trying it.

[down]

The latter - http://deadline.com/2016/03/disney-boycott-georgia-anti-gay-discrimination-bill-captain-america-civil-war-1201724974/

edited 23rd Mar '16 7:02:13 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#117105: Mar 23rd 2016 at 6:52:58 PM

[up]Is this happening in more than one state or are you talking about something from the past?

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#117106: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:00:57 PM

Oh for the love of God, North Carolina...

Ever since Obama won North Carolina in 2008, NC Republicans have been overcompensating so hard for the fact that their state is getting bluer.

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DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#117107: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:21:05 PM

[up]Trust me, I live in it, I get to experience our state's legislature continually embarrass itself (and the state by association) every day.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#117108: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:23:13 PM

Well, looks like I can't visit some friends of mine unless I want to give up my human rights for a week.

Fuck off, NC.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#117109: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:26:05 PM

It's like we needed one more reason for why we should hate the South.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#117111: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:38:17 PM

You have to convince Judge Dredd before it officially becomes a law.

Leviticus 19:34
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#117112: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:40:14 PM

Did I just watch Paul Ryan admit that not all poor people are takers and that mandatory minimums don't work? What alternate universe is this?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#117113: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:41:48 PM

[up]

You aren't alone, a lot of other people here are questioning this.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#117114: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:45:13 PM

In the event that this does get passed and become law what are the actual chances of it being enforceable? Because this just screams of another one of those stupid "protest" bills that has no chance of actually being enforced/struck down and is done to buy brownie points with crazies that North Carolina seems fond of. That stupid state religion law comes to mind immediately.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#117115: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:47:38 PM

The Washington Post is skeptical of Ryan's statement, pointing out that, while this means he sympathizes with those on welfare, it doesn't mean he approves of the system itself, and could still see it as "making people become dependent on the Government".

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#117116: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:54:23 PM

Yeah, it seemed pretty clearly like he sees the system as being bad (and perhaps "making" people takers)- he just was apologizing for targeting the people themselves.

Progress is progress though.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#117117: Mar 23rd 2016 at 8:04:07 PM

He does have point though. Welfare is only treating the symptom, the root cause of poverty is unaddressed. And it's true that nobody wants to feel dependent and being in the situation where you need welfare to get by is very disempowering.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#117118: Mar 23rd 2016 at 8:28:07 PM

That's why we need to shift society so it no longer feels like welfare.

When someone drives on a public road, nobody thinks "Oh boy, I'm depending on government handouts to get around." It's just something that people automatically assume will be provided and don't even think about.

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#117119: Mar 23rd 2016 at 8:28:57 PM

@films, the areas around the Nantahala National Forest are a go-to spot for shots featuring dense forests and gorges.

NC is one of the more liberal southern states (generally seeing a straight 50/50 split in parties with sub/urban democrats and rural republicans) overall if you look at the population, it's just that the teapartiers won BIG when Obama took office and have been doing their damnedest to pass everything from this anti-LGBT nonsense to gutting chemical cleanups to trying to pass a state religion mandate a little while back. Mc Crory actually spoke out against the last one which costed him the support of a lot of the uber-crazies; perhaps this newest one is to try to win them back in the upcoming election.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#117120: Mar 23rd 2016 at 8:30:28 PM

Addressing the root cause would make Republicans shriek tho'.

'cuz the fastest way to deal with it is hike the Minimum Wage and they will fight that to death.

darksidevoid Anti-Gnosis Weapon from The Frontiers (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Anti-Gnosis Weapon
#117121: Mar 23rd 2016 at 9:09:31 PM

Would have been nice to see ya'll condemn just the crazies instead of everyone in NC collectively, but whatever.

The tea-partiers gerrymandered themselves into largely safe supermajorities in both houses of the General Assembly after 2010, and the national Democratic Party put all its eggs in the Presidential (AKA Elect Hillary At Any Cost) basket, abandoning our then-imploding state party to partial self-cannibalization in a crisis of confidence and leadership that left us unable to sustain proper fundraising or properly recruit candidates to actually run for office for a good long while. Then-Senator Kay Hagan had to rely on a county-level Democratic Party for coordination and fundraising, and then lost by a truly razor-thin margin to the then-Speaker-of-the-overwhelmingly-unpopular-state-House.

This garbage new law is just the latest in a long line of laws at least as garbage as this one which aim to revoke all reasonable amounts of control from localities and return it to the state. In other words, they're actually for big government, except when it comes from the feds and might disrupt their ability to concentrate more money and power in their own hands. Who'da thunk it?

edited 23rd Mar '16 9:13:00 PM by darksidevoid

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Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#117122: Mar 23rd 2016 at 9:21:09 PM

[up][up][up][up] Universal basic income would go a long way towards this by raising the floor considerably (some money is better than no money), allows those in poverty to not work as much to stay afloat, but it would also be seen as fair since everyone is getting it (with smaller amounts going to children) and those who have a high enough income are essentially paying back the government. Replacing a huge chunk of the welfare system would also simpify costs and greatly reduce bureaucracy. It's kinda why the idea is rather appealing to some in the right-wing as well.

DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#117123: Mar 23rd 2016 at 10:16:18 PM

...fuck, Gov. McCrory officially signed the anti-LGBT ordinance into law. Way to set us back 60 years there, General Assembly! (I fucking hate my state so much right now...)

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#117124: Mar 23rd 2016 at 10:19:14 PM

[up] And way for them to make the Southern stereotype of unintelligent fascist rednecks true.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#117125: Mar 23rd 2016 at 10:25:30 PM

I'm sure the Supreme Court will overrule it.

Eventually. Hopefully.

Oh really when?

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