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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#116951: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:07:21 PM

I'm personally hoping the Wiki Leaks thing blossoms into a big deal that overshadows the Hillary email scandal crap.

Whatever your opinion might be on Hillary using a private server for discussing potentially confidential information, nothing she could have said could possibly outweigh the risk of taking said potentially confidential information and posting it on the internet for the world to see. If WikiLeaks is attempting to condemn Hillary with the content of her emails, they're doing so by committing a much greater offense.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#116953: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:07:32 PM

~I Love Dogs: Eh, I suspect that it will blow over within a few months, in terms of direct political agenda setting.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#116954: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:08:20 PM

@dogs ....yes that is exactly what that means

Democracy is dead! Long live the toupee!!!

edited 22nd Mar '16 3:09:39 PM by MadSkillz

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116955: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:10:40 PM

Yes, yes, mock me for being hysterical. I know I am. But I'd like everyone to at least acknowledge the possibility that we're all doomed.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#116956: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:11:25 PM

Also, it's terribly ironic that a website dedicated to forced transparency via leaking information would even be on Hillary's case about violating confidentiality protocol in the first place.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#116957: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:15:42 PM

Going back to my last post, wasn't referring to terrorists as "radical Islamists" originally a democrat thing or an I misremembering? If I am accurate, is it telling that Ted Cruz is using it? If I'm wrong, then nevermind.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#116958: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:21:36 PM

Yes, yes, mock me for being hysterical. I know I am. But I'd like everyone to at least acknowledge the possibility that we're all doomed.

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No one is undecided about anything in this election anymore, let alone on Clinton. Which means this leak changed exactly zero opinions.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#116959: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:30:38 PM

Jesus... These people are the Trump base? It's even worse than I thought. Fucking retards, it makes me deeply sad to see such a profound level of toxic stupidity.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#116960: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:32:19 PM

Trumps supporters have one thing in common. They are angry.

I honestly see much of them with Sanders, I do not see the comparisons between them far fetched.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
desdendelle Hooded Crow from Land of Milk and Honey (Sergeant) Relationship Status: Hiding
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#116961: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:44:14 PM

[up][up] You don't want to go to rationalwiki for unbiased stuff. You want to go there when you want a laugh on some fundies' expanse.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#116962: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:49:27 PM

Both Sanders and Trump voters do have a legitimate commonality: They're tired of the Elites of their parties playing their Country Club Beltway Yuppie games, all the while never addressing the concerns of normal Americans (healthcare, taxes, Social Security, college costs, low wages, etc.). Now the end goals are likely/potentially different, but both Sanders and Trump's campaigns address major concerns to a plurality in both parties, who both want a fair shake.

The exact crossover of supporters is something to dispute, but they're both reactions from the general public from both ends that the system has failed them, and they want the System to put up or shut up. If it wasn't for Hillary's good name, I suspect, we might be seeing the same insurgency takeover in both parties.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#116963: Mar 22nd 2016 at 3:55:43 PM

ou don't want to go to rationalwiki for unbiased stuff. You want to go there when you want a laugh on some fundies' expanse.

Ah yes, I'm aware of that. It's funny, but it's very biased. But that's fine, because it was created to make fun of Conservapedia.

But in this case, I think they're on solid ground calling self-described "neoreactionaries" as massively misguided ignoramuses and racists.

But anyway yeah, self-consciously fascist reactionary people are rare, but apparently they love Trump.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#116964: Mar 22nd 2016 at 4:20:32 PM

@Regarding wikileaks: I'd say it's importance to Clinton's chances depends on whether or not it gets on major news networks, Dogs. Remember a couple of weeks ago when some of you were predicting that one nutter of a KKK guy was voting Clinton because she was somehow a plant of some sort would ruin her chances? There's tons of newsgroups on the internet talking about all kinds of things, but they don't necessarily penetrate very deep into public consciousness and reach a relatively small audience. Major news networks have a far broader reach with the information they disseminate. And with this tragedy in Belgium I'm betting this thing slips by major news networks without a blip. And quite frankly, people have probably already made up their minds about the whole Clinton email thing so most who hear about this will probably not change their minds.

Also does wikileaks even have any currently relevant information anymore? Gotta say what they released the last time appeared to basically be a whole bunch of office memos and gossip.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#116965: Mar 22nd 2016 at 5:07:23 PM

Also, Native Jovian, there is indeed an ideological split in the Democratic Party. I see it in my friends on Facebook who vilify Hillary Clinton and swear that they will vote for nobody if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. These people are the mirror of Trump supporters in terms of their alienation from the establishment, and they represent a significant voting bloc that can help a Democratic candidate win elections.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that there aren't legitimate difference between Clinton, Sanders, and their respective supporters. I just don't think it's anywhere near the same league as the difference between Trump/his supporters and everyone else in the GOP. Yeah, there are some people who take the attitude of "Bernie or bust", but given that Clinton also enjoys widespread support in the Democratic base, I'm skeptical that the "Bernie or nobody" crowd will make a significant difference in the general election.

Both Sanders and Trump voters do have a legitimate commonality: They're tired of the Elites of their parties playing their Country Club Beltway Yuppie games, all the while never addressing the concerns of normal Americans (healthcare, taxes, Social Security, college costs, low wages, etc.).
Sanders has been in Washington just as long as Clinton has. He's not part of the Democratic party mainstream, no, but anyone who considers him a "political outsider" in the same vein as Trump (who isn't — or at least wasn't — even a politician, and has never held any political office whatsoever) is fooling themselves.

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#116966: Mar 22nd 2016 at 5:31:16 PM

Trump may have never held a political office, but he is the very definition of The Man who buys politicians for himself. Calling him an "outsider" is ridiculous.

His platform is based on the idea that he knows how corrupt the system is because he helped corrupt it.

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edited 22nd Mar '16 5:32:26 PM by Fighteer

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#116967: Mar 22nd 2016 at 5:54:59 PM

And while Sanders is a career Politician, he's like comparing a lawyer who's worked in his own small relative homegrown firm to BIG NAME SUPER FIRM. Yes he's in the occupation, but he's not exactly an insider to the Beltway either, in the same way Hillary or Jeb are.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#116968: Mar 22nd 2016 at 6:40:59 PM

So according to US Uncut, there have been a number of issues at Arizona polling places involving long lines for everyone and lifelong Democrats suddenly being registered under a different Party, and thus unable to vote in the Democratic Primary. Anyone able to find a slightly more mainstream source for this info?

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#116969: Mar 22nd 2016 at 6:41:23 PM

Something like that apparently was happening over here in Florida.

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#116970: Mar 22nd 2016 at 6:45:36 PM

well it is Florida.... and we know where all the nuts go....

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#116971: Mar 22nd 2016 at 6:57:56 PM

Along with all the shity voting machines.

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#116972: Mar 22nd 2016 at 8:24:30 PM

Trump just won Arizona. Since that was a winner-takes-all primary, he got all 58 delegates.

edited 22nd Mar '16 8:29:51 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116973: Mar 22nd 2016 at 8:32:23 PM

-hovers finger cautiously over the panic button-

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#116974: Mar 22nd 2016 at 8:50:10 PM

Vox is reporting Hillary also won Arizona.

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116975: Mar 22nd 2016 at 8:52:25 PM

-sighs, shifts finger off of panic button-


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