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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#116676: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:22:21 PM

Remember, you might not like having to support Saruman but we live in a TWO TOWER system!
That article got some chuckles outta me.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#116677: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:27:54 PM

You know Saruman was just doing that because he plans to ultimately betray Sauron after he’s done betraying us!

But that’s just an artful smear on Gandalf’s part, implying that Saruman doesn’t have the integrity to be totally uninfluenced by the speaking fees one ring once he accepts it!

He totally is going to betray Sauron and not us.

Such exquisite sarcasm... I wonder how many will completely miss it.

edited 18th Mar '16 3:29:37 PM by Luminosity

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#116678: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:33:50 PM

No, I think it's obvious enough.

As for "thanks, Obama", I blame his administration for fucking up the Arab Spring. Only Tunisia got their democracy and freedom. Everyone else got fucked. Because he thoroughly half-assed his support to the democratic forces.

It might not actually be his fault, but I don't care. I'm feeling petulant tonight. And blaming Mossad is cliché. It's not the Arab peoples' fault that they wanted to live in democratic regimes where their voices were heard.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#116679: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:36:23 PM

You know, I was hugely skeptical of the whole "The media's blacking out Sanders!" narrative... then I saw this article from the NY Times pointing out how Sanders could still win the nomination, particularly the picture of one of his rallies. They literally captured Sanders from the shoulder up and a single sign someone was holding up behind him, and nothing else - and yet that's what the editor picked for the article's picture?

Consider me now simply skeptical of the narrative, but believing that at least the person that decided on that picture is probably against Sanders as the Democratic nominee.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#116680: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:40:10 PM

It might not actually be his fault, but I don't care.
Obama's presidency in a nutshell.

The Obama Doctrine, and the numerous articles responding to it, has given some good perspective on his foreign policy, but I'm still not entirely sure where I fall on the issue.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#116681: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:40:52 PM

What if the press are against him? In the end they're powerful political actors, he has to either be able to overcome them, win them round or he's simply not up to the job.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#116682: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:41:18 PM

How about this classy segment by our beloved host Trevor Noah.

I fucking miss Jon Stewart.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#116683: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:52:04 PM

[up]

In fairness, that's not too much different than shots they've taken at other politicians, and they'd likely have gotten complaints of sexism if they'd used Hillary's face on the stripper. Also, he took a similar jab at Hillary for her decidedly... unfortunate hand-motions.

That said, I far prefer Samantha Bee's segment with PBS and "Conductor Bernie".

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#116684: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:53:39 PM

[lol][lol][lol]

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#116685: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:58:30 PM

The Obama doctrine (and especially his recent defence of it) is so many tons of horseshit. There are many things Obama gets misblamed for. Foreign Policy is not one of them.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#116686: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:01:29 PM

Depends who's doing the blaming. There are legit issues with Obama's forign policy, but they tend to not be bought up by the right when they want to shit on him.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#116687: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:06:26 PM

[up]The right doesn't complain about Obama's foreign policy? Since when?

edited 18th Mar '16 4:06:36 PM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#116688: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:07:24 PM

He means they bring up all the bullshit and false arguments instead of the legitimate ones when they complain.

Oh really when?
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#116689: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:07:30 PM

They do, but their complaints are bullshit and Dramatically Missing the Point.

He's better than Bush Jr, I'll give him that.

edited 18th Mar '16 4:08:08 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#116690: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:56:45 PM

What do you think Obama should have done?

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#116691: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:58:22 PM

[up]Put CIA drone campaigns on a short leash to begin with and increase their accountability.

Inter arma enim silent leges
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#116692: Mar 18th 2016 at 4:59:06 PM

The CIA on a short leash period. They'e proven time and time again that they can't be trusted.

Oh really when?
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#116693: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:02:37 PM

The last time we tried to put the CIA on a leash we gutted their human intel capability. And they do everything the Presidents have told them to do. It's just that those things aren't very pleasant.

Edit: Just playing Devil's advocate.

Romney says vote Cruz over Trump Personally I prefer Mussolini to the Ayatollah. At least in Trumpland porn would be legal, as opposed to the Heavenly Kingdom of Cruzia and it's Christian Sharia law.

edited 18th Mar '16 5:05:07 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#116694: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:05:15 PM

[up]Their intel and SIGINT ops aren't as much of a problem as they assassination clearance is.

They have no jurisdiction when it comes to their targets.

Inter arma enim silent leges
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#116695: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:06:28 PM

Well, how about being a tad quicker to denounce Mubarak and Assad? Or canning or at least severely regulating the CIA's drone program? The world is fine with spies spying, it's what they're for. Crashing weddings, not so much.

How about not supporting a Shia minority party's oppression of the rest of Iraqis? How about not resupplying Israel when they ran out of murder delivery systems during their little ethnic cleansing operations?

I heartily congratulate him on Cuba and Iran, though. Good job. And a shout-out to my homie Pope Francis, bless his soul.

edited 18th Mar '16 5:08:21 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#116696: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:10:27 PM

If we're gonna talk forign policy then let's talk it, but not Israel related stuff, we have a thread for that.

There's other stuff, Libya could have been handled better by everyone involved, Syria had so much flip flopping Romney considered suing, there remains the standard issues of support for authoritarian regimes, and I know that Shinra has issues with the handling of Ukraine.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#116697: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:24:15 PM

[up][up] The government that rules Iraq was elected by the majority of their people. And the majority of their people do not like the Sunni's. It's a problem in democracies everywhere, and certainly not contained to just Iraq.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#116698: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:32:28 PM

Anonymous has set its sights on trumping the Trump.
All Anon is good for is denial of service attacks and script-kiddy exploits on websites and doxxing. I doubt any of those will end up hurting Trump's campaign

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#116699: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:36:33 PM

Anon: Because a faceless, self-appointed, all-seeing, all-powerful mob is totally what a person thinks of when they think "freedom".

Leviticus 19:34
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#116700: Mar 18th 2016 at 5:42:27 PM

Yeah I kinda fear Anon will help Trump. Give him an excuse for his loss that keeps his movement alive.


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