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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Is it a conspiracy when student advocacy groups protest someone, shame them in public, and/or demand their resignation/firing? I think the word you're looking for is "activism" or "organization" or "association".
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.What American Politicians Don’t Get About Nordic Countries
More ironically, the government cuts here (more neo-liberal in nature than common sense) have made it very difficult for services to work. Bernie could use that to shoot down accusations of "naivity".
edited 18th Mar '16 1:33:53 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleTrump's been toying with a presidential run for decades. The idea that the Clintons somehow enticed him to do it is utter nonsense; a paranoid conspiracy theory made up by delusional establishment Republicans unwilling to accept that the rot came from within their own party.
edited 18th Mar '16 5:58:08 AM by DrDougsh
Trump is winning now in the Republican primary. Sufficient margins in the next primaries (I've seen California mentioned as a "swing state" in the primary) may give him enough delegates to get the general election nomination.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman![]()
Yep.
Third party ticket, and dropped out before the primaries.
Incidentally, David Duke was one of the members of that same third party, and Trump cited him and his influence on the party as one of the reasons why he dropped out.
edited 18th Mar '16 6:27:54 AM by DrDougsh
Rubio isn't quite ragequitting. Florida doesn't let you run for more than one office in a primary, so he either had to be Rubio for President or Rubio for Senate, but not both. That's why his run was seen as so quixotic, there was only a brief period where he was really believed to have a strong shot at the Presidential ticket (briefly before Jeb came in, and briefly after Jeb left before it became apparent that he had no appeal), and he was sacrificing what could have been a long career in the Senate to do so.
Problem is, the guy doesn't want to do his job, and now that he's a lame duck, he has a good excuse not to!
Eh, Rubio can rot. Dude is a slimeball.
edited 18th Mar '16 6:23:50 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Never heard of that, but I guess I'll take your word for it. I've heard plenty about parents doing that though.
Universities still had a giant free speech movement. Now of course the students have decided it only applies to them and people who agree with them, and everyone else is an evil racist who must die/be fired
Plus some Universities are publicly funded, so I suppose they count as public facilities.
Edit: Plus these people probably think the first amendment itself needs to go and be replaced by more European like speech protections.
Will anyone accept responsibility for Flint.
Snyder is blaming the EPA for not reacting fast enough, the Democrats agrees, the EPA was to slow in protecting the people from Synders incompetent vindictive government.
edited 18th Mar '16 7:40:56 AM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.The First Amendment extends to anything that the government directly funds or supports, such as public schools. However, students themselves have constrained free-speech rights in educational settings according to the courts.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"If it's not true, Bill is more than welcome to deny it. He has yet to do so.
Washington Post, August 5, 2015: Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid
Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.
Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.
The tone of the call was informal, and Clinton never urged Trump to run, the four people said. Rather, they said, Clinton sounded curious about Trump’s moves toward a presidential bid and told Trump that he was striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right.
edited 18th Mar '16 7:55:45 AM by SolipsistOwl
And as we all know, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, Nixon had JFK assassinated, and the moon landing was fake.
Are there any other conspiracy theories we can officially confirm without any shred of evidence?
On the topic of free speech, sure. Have all of it. Go on the streets and say all the shit you want, I'm not gonna stop you. The question is whether or not you should automatically be given a platform to say that kinda bullshit. If a student petition was started (and then reviewed by the university board who make these kinds of decisions) then evidently they thought the platform had been misused for this particular discussion. Wow, it's almost like higher learning institutions aren't run by an anarchic group of vaguely-defined PC robots that everyone can conveniently blame all of their ills on.
edited 18th Mar '16 8:12:05 AM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.

Israel/Palestine are hot-button issues. AIPAC and its interests tend to silence students and oppose freedom of speech on college campuses. They get people fired or expelled for being pro-Palestine.
They also spent $40 million opposing the Iran Deal.
edited 17th Mar '16 8:46:25 PM by SolipsistOwl