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#116226: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:24:12 PM

We've gone through about... half the primary states? I'd have to look it up to be sure. Unless Clinton falls into a black hole, her lead in delegates is all but insurmountable.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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#116227: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:24:51 PM

Summoning Aszur with porn parody, has convinced me that he should be the next US president. He doesn't flip-flop.

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#116228: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:25:31 PM

Wikipedia collects Clinton's positions on foreign policy. The more I read, the more my feelings tend towards "what an utter asshole".

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#116229: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:26:55 PM

Clinton is all but inevitable at this point.

On the upside: People whose evaluation of the real world is based on things beyond reddit posts are well aware of the fact Clinton is hardly going to ruin the country, and Sanders has, without a doubt, presented himself as an inevitable force in politics.

After Hillary, we might see Sanders as a president.

Summoning Aszur with porn parody, has convinced me that he should be the next US president. He doesn't flip-flop.

Unless my constituents are into it, but I still use safe words.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:30:01 PM by Aszur

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#116230: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:27:41 PM

[up] He's too old to run again in 2020. Like, literally. There's an age limit.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116231: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:27:50 PM

She does not have the greatest track record for foreign policy, but if I can say one thing in favor of it it's that she makes her case rationally and without xenophobia.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#116232: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:31:18 PM

[up][up]You can't be under 35 but I've never heard of an "You're too old to run" limit. Officially, anyway, where did you get that?

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#116233: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:32:35 PM

I am not aware of any Constitutional or legislative cap on the age of a presidential candidate.

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#116234: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:33:28 PM

[up][up] I saw that used against Ron Paul, last time I remember. (as if there weren't enough things against that... urgh. I don't like him.)

Even if it isn't true, there's certain logic to it. You don't want your president to die of a stroke the moment he's elected.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:34:17 PM by Luminosity

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#116235: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:34:29 PM

If people were talking about him being told old they were most likely talking about it as a reason to not elect him, not that he literally couldn't run.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:34:48 PM by LSBK

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#116236: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:34:29 PM

Clinton's positions on foreign policy are pretty much the average ones of most U.S politicians. Bernie's positions on foreign policy are more like a gigantic shrug. On the other extreme, we got Trump's positions which are a gigantic middle finger.

I can say both stump the trump's but can't really say either is better for each other.

I mean, seriously. Do you literally expect that because of a single president the U.S will suddenly do a 180 turn on its foreign policies? They are always the same

Bomb enemies and sell guns. The only thing that changes between parties is how much focus is placed on each.

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#116237: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:34:52 PM

Actually I'm pretty sure that we have no legal restriction on the upper limit of age of candidates. Granted, it's a practical concern that people will probably bring up, but there's no legal restrictions on Sanders running again in 2020 if he really wants to. There's just the minimum age requirement.

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#116238: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:37:02 PM

Keep in mind that Hillary will probably run in 2020, unless she becomes a complete sellout it's not likely Sanders will challenge her again until 2024.

Or maybe that far in the future we'll have rejuvenating medicine, that would render the age issue moot.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#116239: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:37:58 PM

Keep in mind that Hillary will probably run in 2020

Sigh... fucking shit on a fucking biscuit. Obvious, yeah, but bleh.

So will Trump, for that matter.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:38:10 PM by Luminosity

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116240: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:38:50 PM

He likely won't be as much of an issue in 2020, though. On top of having four years to put his name through the wringer even more, he'll be the same age then as Bernie is now.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:39:18 PM by ILoveDogs

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#116241: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:42:09 PM

Which means unless Bernie or Warren pull a miracle, Hillary is likely inevitable for 8 years total.

(sings) Fly me to the moon, and let me play among the staaars...

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#116242: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:42:15 PM

[up][up]That's assuming she doesn't just win.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:43:43 PM by LSBK

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116243: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:44:28 PM

So, who do you suppose the up-and-coming political forces are? Who will be running in 2024, or 2028?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#116244: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:46:09 PM

Looking a bit too far in the future, sire. I don't think anyone has a crystall ball for this.

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#116245: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:46:50 PM

Well, I think about the future a lot, I guess ^^

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#116246: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:47:12 PM

[up][up][up] Alan Keyes. Because perennial means perennial, dammit!

So, onto a more sincere question: does this mean that Western Illinois University will be wrong for the first time? sad

EDIT: [nja]

edited 16th Mar '16 1:48:00 PM by SciFiSlasher

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#116247: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:48:41 PM

Sanders is a big name thanks to these elections, and depending on how the republican party debacle goes, he might just be able to run as independent in the future

Regardless of his win or loss in these primaries, Sanders has started something, I would dare to wager.

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#116248: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:53:05 PM

I can't see Trump making it through the primary in 2020.

Part of the strength of his campaign is the idea that he might actually win the Republicans the White House. That he's bold and original and calls it like it is. Certain elements of the Republican party basically see him as their Obama, ready to sidestep all the political bullshit and be a breath of fresh air in Washington.

George W. Bush hasn't faded from people's memories and the Tea Party actually shut down the government not so long ago. Republican PR is just shit right now. Their chances of winning this election were never very good, but then here comes this guy who's innovative and different and "he's saying what everybody's thinking".

Trump was a mistake that the party is desperately trying to stuff back into the bottle to no avail. If Clinton takes the Presidency, he'll lose the only argument anybody outside of the hatemongers ever really had for him to begin with: his charismatic electability. Once it's proven that he's not electable, they're never going to make the mistake of supporting him again.

edited 16th Mar '16 1:53:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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#116249: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:53:13 PM

Let's face it: without some kind of crazy turnaround, Clinton will get the Democratic nomination. Trump will get the Republican nomination, unless the RNC pulls an unprecedented coup against its voters.

If Trump goes up against Clinton, then the country will face an existential test this fall. No matter what you think about Clinton personally, at worst she represents the status quo, which, while not ideal, is not going to tear our country apart.

If you're someone like Luminosity, who doesn't care about our internal politics and just wants a candidate who is going to ignore Russia so that Putin doesn't have an external enemy to scapegoat in order to sustain his power, well, sorry. You're SOL, even if that theory holds water, which it doesn't.

If you're someone like SolipsistOwl, who thinks that Clinton is some kind of international war criminal, well... okay, stay home. Please just leave the rest of us be.

If you're anyone else, then staying home is as good as letting the trailer park living, wife-beating, meth-addicted, know-nothing, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo-watching, racist white fuckoffs decide who our next President will be.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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#116250: Mar 16th 2016 at 1:55:43 PM

If you're someone like Luminosity, who doesn't care about our internal politics and just wants a candidate who is going to ignore Russia so that Putin doesn't have an external enemy to scapegoat in order to sustain his power, well, sorry. You're SOL, even if that theory holds water, which it doesn't.

Can you quit strawmanning me, please? Just once. You know full well it's not just that.


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