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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Don't worry. My sources tell me that Trump won't end the world. He might destroy one of Saturn's moons, though.
Titan's had it coming for a very long time...
edited 15th Mar '16 11:28:03 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34@Logo P: Well, as far as Trump goes, I was thinking more Putting on the Reich, not The End of the World as We Know It. Granted, I abhor the idea of a Cruz presidency as well. Never liked the idea of theocracy. Either way, I'm really hoping that Bernie's almost certain primary loss won't result in the youths staying home in November (or worse, voting for Trump out of spite).
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryI dunno, I don't really think Cruz is as nuts as people say he is. I'd certainly trust him more than Trump (I don't trust Trump as far than I can kick him backwards). He's certainly further right than me (abolish the IRS, really?), but Trump's too narcissistic, too self-centered, too shallow to run a country.
This whole campaign's become really depressing. I'm just going to sit here, listening to sad classical music composed by Emily Howell, while drinking decaf coffee and looking off sadly into the distance.
edited 16th Mar '16 1:40:18 AM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Trump wouldn't destroy the country deliberately, but he's stupid enough that he might do it by accident. Cruz is nuts but in a sane way, I think the Daily Show explained it best, Cruz would defiantly launch nukes, but you can be confident that they'd be aimed at another country, with Trump you don't even have that certainly.
This is all academic though, neither could win the general.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranWell, if it's a Trump v Hillary run, then I know who I'm voting for.
Damn it, Trump! I was really looking forward to voting for someone right of Hillary, but you had to somehow be a worse candidate.
Leviticus 19:34
He's certainly forced her to pretend she's left now, but there's no indication that'll stick once he's out of the picture. Meanwhile Wall Street donations will ensure she'll let them evade due justice for another four years. Nobody donates to someone actually dangerous to them.
Suffice to say, the issues she didn't change her stance on are enough for me to despise the notion of her presidency. Outright refusal of single-payer(not just critique of Sanders plan specifically, outright refusal of it as a concept),and her warhawkery meaning she'll start shit with Putin(or get provoked into doing so by him), and we'll get hit with more fucking sanctions that hit nothing but us ordinary Russians.
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I hope that's the case, but whether Clinton will stay there will be demonstrated by who she picks as a running mate. She could pick someone relatively more liberal, in order to shore up her base. People like to mention Elizabeth Warren, but I bet she would prefer to keep working in the Senate.
On the other hand, she could pick someone relatively more conservative in order to appeal more to fleeing Republicans. And while that may very well work, relying on people voting against Trump, rather than for Clinton, could be a bad idea in the long run. Especially if she doesn't quite deliver, and the Republicans get their act together by 2020.
edited 16th Mar '16 2:20:39 AM by Eschaton
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I'm not sure if he will ever be fully out of the picture, this race isn't the end of Sanders.
As for Clinton on Russia, it's possible, but remember that the '90s were a time of more friendly relations with Russia, Clinton may be able to bring that back, or at least seek to.
Not only will Warren want to stay in the Senate but there's the gender issue the consider, we're not going to see a two women ticket, I belive that Joaquín and Julian Castro have had their names floated for a while. Younge, Latino, men from, Texas, they could be a good balance to Clinton's older, white, northern (at least politically), women, position.
edited 16th Mar '16 3:05:06 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranHe's too old to run again in 2020. My best hope is that Wall Street won't crash the world by then or something, so that Elizabeth Warren could run.
Source - OnTheIssues.org
- 2012: Take a harder line with Russia's Putin. (Jun 2014)
- Push Russia on press freedom; they've killed 20 journalists. (Jun 2014)
- Putin's annexing Crimea plays outdated zero-sum game. (Jun 2014)
- Russian reset: Pushed Obama to keep Putin at a distance. (Jun 2014)
- Putin wants to reassert Russia's dominance in its own areas. (Jun 2014)
- Contain Russia or Putin will expand beyond Crimea. (Apr 2014)
Doesn't look that way to me. Don't get me wrong, I still hate Putin's guts, but every single American attempt at antagonizing him damaged literally everyone but him, and I'm personally tired of geopolitical debris flying my way.
edited 16th Mar '16 3:24:00 AM by Luminosity
He doesn't have to be a presidential candidate to have influence, he's going to have built up a lot of support nationally after this, that will get him allies in Congress and if he commands a voting block in Congress a president Clinton will have to work with him.
Fair point on Russia, I guess we will have to wait and see.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranBasically, NYT editors took an article that was a reasonably facts-oriented assessment of Sanders, and turned it into a series of back handed insult-compliments saying he's a basically a gadfly who doesn't actually get things done. After the article was already published.
Like I'm probably reiterating, from what I've seen of Trump, seen of his business/political/personal policies, seen how his supporters and detractors "interact" in the loosest sense, how even his base party is trying to distance themselves from them, how even freaking Holland has denounced Trump's nomination, the recent trailer for The Purge: Election Day, heck, even the entire The Purge franchise may become a Harsher in Hindsight reality if he's elected. Calling it now, first 500 days in office, he's gonna push a legally-confusing and softer-sounding (at least for Trump) piece of Purge-sounding legislation. Also, ahow.
edited 16th Mar '16 4:41:03 AM by Shippudentimes
My big fear at this point is that, when it comes to the general election, Trump will run left of Hillary on certain points that he's already established himself as left of the Republican party on in the past; ie healthcare, and that will enable him to take part of the independent base that was otherwise supporting Sanders, while the rest will end up staying home.
Throw in some good old fashioned voter intimidation by his black shirts and a lack of a proper government response due to the GOP's dominance at the local level, and you have a viable path to a Trump presidency.
edited 16th Mar '16 4:50:12 AM by CaptainCapsase
Considering Sanders voters are actually busy protesting Trump rallies for real, I grow increasingly tired of playing stereotype watchdog by pointing out how baseless the whole "Trump crossover" thing truly is.
Now staying home... that's a possibility. Hillary campaign wanted to crush the enthusiasm of the Bernie campaign... well...
I certainly wouldn't judge anyone for staying home.
edited 16th Mar '16 4:56:55 AM by Luminosity
I do think it's a more likely result though. I think the sort of person who supports Sanders and hates Clinton is much more likely to not vote at all than go for a revenge vote for Trump. In that sense, Clinton's approach from here on out should be less "here's how I'm better than Sanders" and more "here's why I would be an acceptable alternative to Sanders", especially now that her coronation is basically guaranteed. She's got to make up for a lot of lost love, even if it costs her votes in the primary.
edited 16th Mar '16 5:07:00 AM by Clarste

If anyone's likely to bring about the end of the world, it's him. Trump is too self-centered to try that.
edited 15th Mar '16 11:25:02 PM by LogoP
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.