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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115926: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:33:20 PM

Yeah, Trump's followers consider those skeletons a plus. Him getting Klan support is good for him, not bad.

He was entirely right when he said he could shoot someone in public and not lose anybody over it.

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#115927: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:35:08 PM

Turning his fanbase off him isn't the idea, his fanbase are to small to matter, the people who need to be turned away from him are non-fans who might swing to him, and they can be turned away.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#115928: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:37:16 PM

I am of the mind that such a thing is not necesary for the general presidential election but that it is in the interest of the Republican' party's primary results

I don't think Trump stands a chance in the generals against anyone

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#115929: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:37:17 PM

@Sci-Fi Slasher: I don't think that's particularly true, since Anonymous was born at a different time, and is much more strictly anti-establishment. While being a such loose organization does make it rather indiscriminate and counterproductive, I don't think it's ever had any fondness for "phonies" or the powerful. Trump is just /pol/ incarnate, which is a different issue entirely.

[up][up]Exactly. Many of his supporters can and probably will rationalize away any criticism no matter how contradictory it may be, or see it as praise (ie. "people I hate don't like him, so he must be right!"). And keeping up the criticism is still a good thing for those who haven't completely bought into him, though if I remember correctly one poll said something like 80-90% of the people had already made up their mind about him (and Hillary, for that matter).

edited 15th Mar '16 3:38:42 PM by Eschaton

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#115930: Mar 15th 2016 at 3:57:24 PM

Exit polls: Democratic voters split on supporting eventual nominee

WARNING: Early exit polls are incomplete, and they should be interpreted with caution. They only include interviews with voters who cast ballots earlier in the day, which could underrepresent certain groups. And the networks don’t release full results before polls have closed statewide; they only tease out certain numbers, some of which will shift significantly in the final survey.

Democratic primary voters casting their ballot Tuesday are largely split on whether they would support the opposite candidate if their choice is not the eventual nominee, according to NBC News' exit polling. On the Republican side, a majority would be satisfied with Donald Trump, but another third said they would consider supporting a third-party candidate.

Asked whether they would be satisfied with Bernie Sanders as the nominee, 50 percent of Hillary Clinton voters said they would be satisfied, with 46 percent indicating dissatisfaction. Posed the same question, 47 percent of Sanders voters said they would be satisfied with Clinton as the nominee, while 51 percent said they would be dissatisfied.

In the event of a Clinton-Trump general-election matchup, 57 percent of Republican primary voters surveyed Tuesday said they would go with the party's nominee, while 37 percent said they would not rule out backing another candidate.

Slightly more than half of Ohio Democratic voters (53 percent) said free trade costs American workers jobs, ABC News reported, higher than the share who said the same in North Carolina, Missouri and Illinois. That finding could portend well for Sanders, who has made the issue of free trade front-and-center in his argument in the rust-belt states.

More than eight-in-10 Florida Democratic voters (83 percent) said they had made up their mind about whom to support earlier than last week, while 16 percent said they had decided in the last seven days, CNN reported. In Missouri, 22 percent said they decided in the last week while 77 percent said they had decided before that time. Roughly seven-in-10 Democratic voters in North Carolina and Ohio said their minds were made up before last week.

On the issues, 40 percent of Missouri Democratic voters called the economy and jobs the most important issue, while 28 percent cited income inequality and 24 percent health care. The results were similar among North Carolina Democrats.

As far as whether they want the next president to continue Barack Obama's policies, 48 percent of Ohio Democrats said they hoped for more of the same, while 34 percent said they hoped the next president would be more liberal and 12 percent less.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115931: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:39:35 PM

Eesh, and I thought Trump was against Free Speech before... apparently part of the contract Volunteers have to sign has a "non-disparagement" clause, going so far as to say that the employees of the volunteer can't criticize him or work for someone else on the Presidential race.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#115932: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:41:25 PM

Which is about twenty kinds of illegal, by the way.

Also, early results from Florida indicate the state is going to Trump and Clinton. Not exactly a huge surprise.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#115933: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:43:45 PM

Yes, but what are the margins on those victories?

Besides, Rubio has already confirmed he won't be dropping out even if he loses Florida. (Gotta split those delegates from Trump!)

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115934: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:45:06 PM

[up][up]

Yeah, Sanders kind of shot himself in the foot with his overt praise for Cuba, given how many former Cubans live in Florida.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#115935: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:46:30 PM

Clinton is crushing with 2/3 of the vote, while Trump leads the Republicads (I so witty) with 46% to Rubio's 27%. (The other two don't even have 20%, and have no chance of catching Trump.)

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#115936: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:50:44 PM

This night pretty much makes or breaks Sanders right? Hope it goes well for him, in that case.

edited 15th Mar '16 4:59:16 PM by LSBK

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#115937: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:56:53 PM

Sorry to disappoint, but early reports from North Carolina are more of the same: Clinton cruising.

Meanwhile Trump has a decent but not too large lead over Cruz in that state.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115938: Mar 15th 2016 at 4:57:20 PM

But I voted for you Bernie, you have to win.

Oh really when?
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#115939: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:02:21 PM

CNN has just called Florida for Trump and Clinton. And I can't argue, seeing as 70+% have reported in on both sides.

Edit: Early results from Ohio.

Clinton, once again, is cruising. Meanwhile, Kasich is actually enjoying a fairly comfortable lead over Trump.

edited 15th Mar '16 5:09:20 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#115940: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:16:37 PM

[up]Hardly any results have come in for Ohio yet, their is still hope for Bernie yet, and I say that as a Clinton voter, and pessimist.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115941: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:22:17 PM

Kasich...leading?

-pinches self-

Nope, not dreaming.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#115942: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:24:23 PM

Rubio is out.

And the hypocrisy throughout his speech is making me gag.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#115943: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:24:27 PM

The empty suit stands deflated...and suspended.

I can now count all the major candidates for president on one hand. Yay.

EDIT- [nja]'d

edited 15th Mar '16 5:24:40 PM by FFShinra

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115944: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:25:13 PM

Like Rubio ever had a chance.

Oh well, now I can watch TV without seeing his ads blasting everywhere.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#115945: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:25:33 PM

And Rubio is out of the race, ladies and gentlemen.

EDIT: [nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja][nja]

edited 15th Mar '16 5:26:15 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115946: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:25:45 PM

Did Rubio just drop out? I'm not near a TV.

What's happening?

Oh really when?
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115947: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:26:12 PM

I haven't seen anything that he's dropped out, but he's doing terribly in Florida.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#115948: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:26:45 PM

He just said he suspended his campaign in his concession speech.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#115949: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:26:49 PM

[up][up] I'm watching CNN right now, and he's dropping out.

edited 15th Mar '16 5:27:08 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#115950: Mar 15th 2016 at 5:27:05 PM

@last 20 pages Yeah im not reading all of you
Weakling. [lol]
But they do not have manes.
In the spirit of the election, maybe we can get one of Trump's old toupees and put it on a mountain lion?
it would be funny to have proposed Scalia's arch-enemy, Richard Posner.
That should be the second name proposed after the GOP shoots down Sri.
Wish the Republican Party was putting up people like [Sandoval] for the Presidency rather than the current crop.
The problem is that the sane, reasonable Republicans have taken one look at what the Tea Party has done to Congress, and very quietly taken a huge step back. They do not under any circumstances want to be in the White House and then have to tell their own party to knock off the fucking shenanigans.
I thought Carson was told by God to endorse Trump. So which is it, Carson?
God told him to accept the position. Or Trump IS God.
People crossing party lines to vote against Trump.
What?? No! Bad Democrats! Get back to your party and stop making it harder for Clinton/Sanders to win!
Shooting kills people.
Unless you're Dick Cheney.
it is a Mountain Lion wearing a toupee
GODDAMNIT ASZUR.
Like a bison. Or a duck.
... Misread that last word. And it would be appropriate after that debate.
The problem with trying to expose Trump's skeletons in his closet is that he more or less uses skeletons as hood ornaments on his car.
... I really want to post this on Facebook. This is such a brilliant turn of phrase. [awesome]

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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