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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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We don't need to rehash the stupid "Bernie voters are bigoted fucks who vote for Trump" stereotype either, yet no one seems to be in a hurry to stop rehashing that.
IF. I do not consider him electable. At all.
But haven't you heard? Sanders voters drink the blood of infants and pray to their dark lord Hastur every weekend.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:52:30 PM by Luminosity
In fairness I at least have not heard about a single Sander's voter who would defect to Trump. As in actually Sander's voters who would actually defect, not hypothetical ones who would hypothetically defect.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:51:52 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI would like to point out at the top of the last page, people would be thankful for a hypothetical assassin that killed a person - a human being, with certain inalienable rights and value - that became President, that they don't support. Trump may be disagreeable at best - I'm on the liberal side of the scale myself - but dear Lord, he's still a human being. You shouldn't really be grateful if a person dies, even if they do stand against everything you believe in. A person's a person, no matter how small, or big, or Democrat or Republican. Don't be thankful for the death of others.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:52:06 PM by Troper_Walrus
Luminosity's thing seems to be less constantly going on about how much they hate Clinton (though they obviously do that a lot) and more about how they don't believe that she's been pretty consistently smeared to look much worse than she actually is for substantial amount of time.Though, I'm not really in a good position to go on about why they're wrong (or right) about that.
You're like the only person who brings that up though. Whenever anyone else mentions it, it's usually in passing to say "yeah, every candidate has their idiot supporters and they don't really represent him."
edited 13th Mar '16 4:53:37 PM by LSBK
The media blackout on Sanders is essentially over since the media can't cover Trump and his rallies without also mentioning the ongoing feud between the two.
Clinton came into the weekend on multiple bad notes, and now she's receiving little weekend attention while Sanders looks like the frontrunner against Trump.
Super Tuesday²: Weekend At Bernie's is going to be an amazing sequel.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions about anyone who would support Trump, even as a second choice.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:53:55 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.It's debatable which of the two would more likely keep him out of the office in a general, but my money's on Sanders, since he speaks to some of the same enraged proletariat that Trump does and could therefore steal some of his votes. At the same time, my parents and a number of older folks I know caucused for Sanders because they despise the Clintons, so he draws from the former-Republicans-who-are-jumping-ship crowd. Those folks won't be voting at all in the general if it comes down to Clinton and Trump.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:57:37 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
X6 There are several authoritarian dictators who I'd be happy to see assassinated (Assad being one) because of how much of a better place it would make the world. Seeing a hypothetical president Trump would have to have seized power by force and destroyed American democracy I don't see any issue with believing the world would be better of with him gone.
Now the question of if an democratically elected Trump would be assassinated is absurd in of itself, a democratically elected Trump isn't Trump, a Trump that won a democratic election would not be Donald Trump. It's like saying "if this orange was an apple would you consider it yellow?", the entire premis is built upon something being what it isn't and you then reacting to it.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:58:15 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI find this confusing. What are you saying? Donald Trump is capable of winning a democratic election for the Presidency of the United States - he's trying to do it right now, and he may be disagreeable, but he's not an idiot. He knows he's a contender, that's why he ran.
Also, something about the dictators: they are frequently committing genocides and human rights violations. They are very bad people. That's a little different. The President couldn't commit genocide - Executive Order 9066 wouldn't even come close to flying today, and that was passed in the 1940's. Forget the stuff North Korea and China can pull.
edited 13th Mar '16 5:04:19 PM by Troper_Walrus
Actually how it's usually done is "it's an overwhelming and alarming development! Something something fearmonger." Not just here, for fairness's sake.
It's been argued that Bernie voters are the only bigots and Trump supporters outside of actual Trump supporters, by the Clinton campaign. Which has been later taken at face value with varying degrees of severity.
No he isn't, there is no evidence to suggest that he has a serious chance at winning the presidency.
In some areas no, but in other areas he is.
No it's not, he's running because his ego demands it, not because he has any chance at winning.
No it isn't, Trump has come out in support for a variety of fascist policies. Including ethnic cleansing, region based internment and several similar things.
Not legally against Americans no, but against non-Americans? Legally he could, the military wouldn't let him, but nothing in the law would stop him.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAn overwhelming majority of Republican voters are bigots in some sense or form, but that doesn't exactly create the narrative the Clinton campaign wants. "Vote for us, we're the only bigot-free camp!" Nevermind that being false, yet no one feels like bringing that up every few pages the way "Bernie voters would vote Trump" is casually brought up.
Early voting for this primary in NC is high, and up compared to 2012
OK, I posted that original Bernie voters Trump thing a while ago, and I figured I ought to say that I did not mean that every Bernie voter, given the chance, would vote for Trump in the general. I'm saying that some would, which is more than I hear for Clinton voters.
This is not to say that Clinton voters (or Clinton herself) are pure and good and lovely, but that there are problems with Bernie supporters (and Bernie) that people ignore.
If by "ignore" you mean "constantly bring up to the point that Bernie himself addressed those problems, yet he keeps getting shat on for them while no one else feels like dealing with the problems in their own camps", then yes.
He's just as bad as them. The difference is that they are in power, and thus able to enact their misdeeds on practice, while he has very little comparative power at this moment. Although now that we've seen him inducing violence, he's... making the most of it, to put it lightly.
edited 13th Mar '16 5:22:41 PM by Luminosity
@Silaswa
You make some fair points, but this is off from my original point: we should not cheer the death of people, unless they are genuinely evil people. Trump may be a xenophobic bore, but he's not half as evil as so many of the warlords and dictators of the world, and even then to wish death may be a bit much for some of them. point is, we should treat the death of someone - even hypothetically - with slightly more reverence than what was presented.
Is Trump that great of a guy? No. Does he deserve death? No. Some respect for our fellow humans.
While that's so false, considering even Bernie himself doesn't ignore them, there's something even funnier - I'm yet to hear a Clinton voter address any of the problems(say, for instance, harrassment
on their part) in their camp.
Coincidentally, it took a while for me to dig up that link. I suspect if it was about Bernie voters, I would not have nearly as much trouble finding it. Hmm...
edited 13th Mar '16 5:30:25 PM by Luminosity

We get it, you don't like Clinton. We really don't need to rehash that.
edited 13th Mar '16 4:47:40 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.