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Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#115526: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:04:53 AM

It occurs that the Sanders supporters' spontaneous organization against Trump perfectly underscores why he's the most electable of the two Democrats in a general.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#115527: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:06:15 AM

[up][up][up]I suppose "Penile Colony" is too tempting a pun to pass up... Not to mention that some of the hits suggest that people make genuine Rouge Angles of Satin misspellings on this.[lol][lol][lol]

[up]He's an Electable Democrat. He's Delectable.

edited 12th Mar '16 11:06:49 AM by TheHandle

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#115528: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:08:14 AM

[up][up][up][up] Here is a bit that shows yet another incident

Between the years of 1964 and 1970 the tactics of both the University administration and the protest movement evolved into bouts of conflict marred by violence. At Berkeley, the administration’s goal was to silence the students, however, the administration did not want to resort to police violence. The students at Berkeley also did not want a violent confrontation for fear that it would dull the impact of the main issue, free speech. However, as the decade moved forward, student protestors often resorted to vandalism and a craving to confront police. Likewise, campus administrators opted to answer the new style of student protest with their own brand of violence. By the late 1960s, University administrations resorted to, not fair, calm negotiations, but police brutality. For example, in 1968, Columbia University saw its first image of this change.[32] Administrators attempted to build a gymnasium in Harlem, a predominantly African American neighborhood, while only seventy African American undergraduates attended the University.[33] Demonstrators later captured a hostage and occupied Hamilton Hall, as well as the office of the President of the University.[34] Over two days, 1,000 students joined the movement, occupying three more buildings before negotiations between the activists and the administration failed.[35] Eventually, the President of Columbia ordered 1,000 police officers to campus, where some students taunted the police before the police pounced.[36] In total, 100 students were injured and over 700 students were arrested.[37] The evolution in student protest activity, from taking hostage a police car in 1964 to taking a person hostage in 1968, as well as the evolution from negotiating to moving in the police in order to regain law and order on-campus is evident. In just four years, protest tactics changed, as did control tactics by Universities. By the end of 1970, and many more confrontations similar to Columbia University’s, this more brutal method of problem solving proved lethal.

Here is my source, as well as the full story of the incident. Like it or not, and some may indeed think it was necessary for the cause of social justice, this kind of shit happened a lot in the 60's and it isn't happening now.

Their were of course other forms of left wing violence during the 60's and 70's, but they are so beyond the pale as to not be worth comparing to the comparatively mild and civl protests going on today.

Oh and also unlike the 60's in the interest of fairness, the authorities have not been nearly as brutal as they were back then in attempting to crush dissent on campuses.

Anyway to get back to the present The best explication for Hillary's aids comments. Essentially it is all to easy in this age where people of all different backgrounds can meet on the internet and share experiences how Americans practically lived in different worlds in that time. Nancy was probably the first "important person" Hillary remembers talking about Aids. Still, she should have probably had an intern look into the statement or I don't know google "The Reagan administration and Aids", before making that statement.

edited 12th Mar '16 11:15:44 AM by JackOLantern1337

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#115529: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:19:22 AM

[up]

Their were of course other forms of left wing violence during the 60's and 70's, but they are so beyond the pale as to not be worth comparing to the comparatively mild and civl protests going on today.

You mean groups and people like the Weather Underground, the Symbionese Liberation Army and Students for a Democratic Society?

Interesting:

* January 1, 1969 – April 15, 1970: 8200 Bombings, attempted bombings and bomb threats attributed to "campus disturbances and student unrest"

Then again, there was something around then that isn't now: The Soviet Union.

And anyone heard of the Boricua Popular Army?

edited 12th Mar '16 11:21:13 AM by Greenmantle

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#115530: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:23:13 AM

Those were far left movements that weren't 100% supported by many people. Hell, the Weather Underground were mostly a bunch of idiots that took their name from a lyric in Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan (specifically "Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows").

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#115531: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:23:30 AM

[up][up]

Then there was the FBI and its wonderful COINTELPRO. Who knows how many threats were not threats at all?

edited 12th Mar '16 11:23:42 AM by TerminusEst

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#115532: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:23:41 AM

Sanders: Don't blame my supporters for violence at Trump rally

Bernie Sanders said Saturday that his supporters were not to blame for the unrest that led to the cancellation of a Donald Trump rally in Chicago, instead accusing the Republican front-runner of encouraging violence.

"I don't think our supporters are inciting. What our supporters are doing is responding to a candidate who has, in fact, in many ways, encouraged violence," Sanders said Saturday at a press conference in Chicago. "When he talks about ... 'I wish we were in the old days when you could punch somebody in the head.' What do you think that says to his supporters?"

Sanders also referred to an incident earlier this week in which a black protester was sucker-punched by a Trump supporter as he was being led out of a rally.

"So the issue now is Donald Trump has got to be loud and clear and tell his supporters that violence at rallies is not what America is about and to end it," Sanders said.

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#115534: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:42:39 AM

Can we use science to create a candidate with Sanders' courage, economic policy combined with Clinton's contacts, pragmatism and foreign policy?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#115535: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:42:57 AM

[up][up]Trump said to the cameras: "Get your people in line, Bernie.”

edited 12th Mar '16 11:44:02 AM by SolipsistOwl

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#115537: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:46:28 AM

Abradof Lincler?

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#115538: Mar 12th 2016 at 11:47:51 AM

Remember to inject some stringency in terms of mathematics, though.

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#115539: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:14:53 PM

This is getting ridiculous.

Sanders camp fires back at Clinton for healthcare comments

A spokesman for Bernie Sanders retorted with a photo after Hillary Clinton said Saturday she didn't know where Sanders was during the healthcare fight in the 1990s.

"I don't know where he was when I was trying to get healthcare in '93 and '94," Clinton said, according to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick.

"Literally standing right behind her," Mike Casca tweeted with a photo of Clinton and Sanders during a speech on healthcare.

Others shared an image of a note from Clinton to Sanders thanking him for his "commitment to real health care."

edited 12th Mar '16 12:15:12 PM by SolipsistOwl

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United Earth
#115540: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:19:07 PM

Hillary has a bad Digging Yourself Deeper problem. I think she's much better off playing defensively. Offensively, she's just... offensive.

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Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#115541: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:20:57 PM

[up][up][up]I was trying to find a clip of the "creation of Barbara Bush" from the Lil' Bush show. We'd probably have Lenin or Trotsky step out of the mixer machine. [lol]

edited 12th Mar '16 12:25:15 PM by Artificius

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#115542: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:43:44 PM

Wait, so if TPP is public the Internet will be destroyed and everything will be awful?

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#115543: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:48:17 PM

You mean if it's signed? It'll probably make things a mess if it gets approved by Congress, but the upheaval going on, I'm not sure it'll get through.

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The best explanation for Hillary Clinton's bizarre comments about the Reagans and HIV/AIDS

(Basically she's an elite wearing the blinders of the elites)

I'm getting this mild feeling that the Hillary Campaign suffered some sort of breakdown internally when Sanders took Michigan. The Nancy thing and now the semi Maoist unpersoning of Sanders from the Hillarycare era seems. Connected.

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#115544: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:51:20 PM

[up][up] Only the American Internet. Europeans have the TPP's lesser-known cousin: TTIP surprised

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#115545: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:51:36 PM

Speaking of college protesters being annoying little shits: I read something in my local paper about how college students are complaining about the workload that college places on them. You know, studying, taking exams, writing papers and theses, and so forth. They say it's taking up too much of their valuable time that might be spent rallying, protesting, and other activist activities.

Seems to me like somebody's missing the whole point of going to college in the first place, and not in a funny way...

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#115546: Mar 12th 2016 at 12:55:05 PM

They have a point, in that students too busy studying don't get to be a driving force in changing the world.

But they're called student strikes for a reason: you're supposed to be making a sacrifice for the cause, not activisting just because you're free that afternoon and had nothing better to do. Although you probably don't. I mean, activism is among the best and noblest and worthiest things to do, ever. The only thing that tops that is actually enacting and implementing solutions.

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#115547: Mar 12th 2016 at 1:07:31 PM

Cruz is currently winning the Wyoming convention.

Can we use science to create a candidate with Sanders' courage, economic policy combined with Clinton's contacts, pragmatism and foreign policy?

Warren?

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#115548: Mar 12th 2016 at 1:09:59 PM

[up][up]Maybe, but if you want to be an activist, you could probably do it on your own without pissing away your parents' money to the tune of forty grand a year, and getting some degree that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

edited 12th Mar '16 1:11:09 PM by pwiegle

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#115549: Mar 12th 2016 at 1:15:32 PM

They have a point, in that students too busy studying don't get to be a driving force in changing the world.

But isn't studying what you go to University for?

edited 12th Mar '16 1:15:47 PM by Greenmantle

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#115550: Mar 12th 2016 at 1:29:23 PM

[up] There could be a variety of reasons as to why people go to a higher institution of learning. Some basketball or football players go there just to play; grades mean nothing to them.

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