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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#115251: Mar 10th 2016 at 12:54:51 PM

You know, I just realized the NATO is a acronym from North A Tlantic Ocean.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#115252: Mar 10th 2016 at 12:58:27 PM

Cruz is definitely worse than Trump but he's far behind Rubio and Trump in Florida.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#115253: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:01:44 PM

Rubio's likely to drop out if/when he loses Florida, isn't he? When he does, is this more likely to help or hurt Trump?

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#115254: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:06:23 PM

Depends. There might be elements of the Establishment/Donor class who are holding out hope he can win at a brokered convention.

Rubio does seem awfully reality proof.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#115255: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:11:25 PM

High Priest Cruz would be awful he wouldnt even wear a funny hat or anything

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#115256: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:19:00 PM

Given how an entire half of American voters right now outright deny man-made climate change, do you really think getting rid of something as tied to America as hamburgers and steak is going happen within our lifetimes? Focus on the environmental issues that can be won first, as well as making artificial beef or vegan beef that has less of an impact on the environment, tastes just as good, and is less expensive than the real deal.

I agree. Was just pointing out the irony, the thought of that becoming policy was funny to me.

you are never going to convince vegetarians to kill off most of the cow population

I dunno. If you look at most of the writings on animal rights, they focus mostly on negative rights and deny we have positive duties to animals. You see a handful of dissenters but that's the "consensus" so to speak. And of course the utilitarians like Singer would support phasing out cow use.

Of course even though the animal rights movement seem to follow these philosophers' word like fans, they're prone to letting their emotions get the better of them, so they'd be unlikely to listen in the hypothetical case here.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115257: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:20:48 PM

I like cows. They're big and cute.

Oh really when?
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#115258: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:30:58 PM

[up]I like cows too. They're great in hamburger.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#115259: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:39:38 PM

[up]Which is why there are so many cows in the first place.

Frankly, I think there would be an almost-easy way to reduce the cow population (i.e. make people stop breeding them): Set an emissions tax on cow meat. So less people will spend their money on it, and less of them will be bred.

Main difficulty is, it requires saying "US" and "Emissions Tax" in the same sentence.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#115260: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:51:06 PM

@ Bat: NATO is an acronym for the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

Keep Rolling On
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#115261: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:16:01 PM

@The Twilight of the Neoconservatives: Well, no wonder the neoconservatives are collapsing. All of their policies have just made America weaker as a superpower, whereas offering the olive branch seems to work extremely well. Because of them, the Middle East and by extension, Europe via the refugee crisis, have become more unstable than they had ever been. This is a complete, total failure of neocon policy. Meanwhile, Obama is extending the olive branch to Cuba and Iran, which will likely make them be more friendly towards American interests in the future. Just because America has the most powerful army in the world by far does not mean that America shouldn't seek reasonable peace first.

Wizard Needs Food Badly
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#115262: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:17:40 PM

I am going to argue though that Obama's actions in Syria reflect a rather bad case of omission bias following by playing catch up.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#115263: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:19:50 PM

[up][up][up][up]I doubt people will want to have their hamburger source halved.

edited 10th Mar '16 2:20:11 PM by AngelusNox

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115264: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:20:29 PM

I wonder if cloned meat still tastes as good.

Oh really when?
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115265: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:20:56 PM

Can someone explain to me what the deal was with us negotiating that nuclear deal with Iran?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#115266: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:21:07 PM

You may want to look up insects. The future's soylent green isn't likely to be people. But crickets.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115267: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:22:27 PM

[up][up]Republicans think anything less than a full invasion and destruction of Iran and it's people is unacceptable.

And Iranians are trying to make efforts to be friends with us. There's a lot of western friendly people over there and their government can't suppress or ignore the sentiment any longer.

edited 10th Mar '16 2:22:40 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#115268: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:23:26 PM

Some fear the Iran deal is too soft and won't stop an Iranian nuclear program.

Others think that any kind of diplomatic success by Obama - especially one as large as fixing the Iran nuclear program controversy - needs to be killed.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115269: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:23:56 PM

I'm a bit confused then, because I kept on hearing Iran say they still hated us even after the deal. Heck, what exactly were the terms of the deal?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#115270: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:28:38 PM

Keep doing the good work on linking stories, Potatoes, i appreciate it. You and the GOP Primary thread over on Penny Arcade forums (and GAF's off-topic board when i'm really bored at work) are how i keep up with my (clarify: US Political) news.

edited 10th Mar '16 2:28:52 PM by Ogodei

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#115271: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:30:20 PM

I wonder if cloned meat still tastes as good.

Current state-of-the-art? It was pretty awful in quality before, but I believe recently it's improved to "eh it's okay".

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#115272: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:35:33 PM

Cloned meat is simply meat from cloned animals, yeah?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#115273: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:38:06 PM

Ah, yes. But I assumed they were just talking about vat meat.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#115274: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:38:51 PM

[up][up]It could be, but I think in this case it means "artificially grown tissues". So, instead of raising an animal, killing it, and harvesting its muscles, we just grow the muscles artificially and then eat those.

edited 10th Mar '16 2:38:57 PM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#115275: Mar 10th 2016 at 2:39:07 PM

Lab-grown meat is still supposed to be bad. What they've been doing is perfecting bean curd meat to the point where the taste is much better than it's been.


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