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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#115126: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:28:38 PM

Nah, I want more states. The US must grow bigger, and I'm not talking about obesity.

Leviticus 19:34
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#115127: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:29:48 PM

I did once say that it might solve the drug trafficking and immigration problem if we had a Second Mexican-American War XD

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115128: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:30:26 PM

I don't think we'll see a mass refugee exodus if Trump or Cruz wins, even with their plans to turn the ICE into the Gestapo.

We are going to see a massive brain drain though.

Oh really when?
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115129: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:37:30 PM

So someone on Face Book just shared this campaign ad from 1964 (Snopes confirmed it's a real ad) that is... just a bit too applicable to Trump in this particular race, especially his comment regarding Goldwater getting the KKK's seal of approval.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#115130: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:40:37 PM

The funny thing about Goldwater being KKK-approved was that he was at least half-Jewish (hence the name).

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#115131: Mar 9th 2016 at 7:41:13 PM

Nah, I want more states. The US must grow bigger, and I'm not talking about obesity.

I agree with you. The USA should completely merge politically and economically with Mexico and Canada, forming the North American Union, just like in conspiracy theories.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#115132: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:06:00 PM

Once again, we have a manifest destiny to have a country stretching from one side of the continent to the other. Just north-to-south this time.

[up][up]Do the KKK really care about people being Jewish? I know folks with one kind of bigotry tend to have them all, but I didn't think it was a major issue for them.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115133: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:09:43 PM

[up]

The KKK was anti-everything but WASPs, really.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#115134: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:16:09 PM

Jews, Catholics, Hispanics, Italians, Muslims, KKK has gone after them all at one time or another.

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#115135: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:30:02 PM

I had to do a thing about Barry Goldwater in my political science class this semester. While I don't think Trump thinks that we should use nuclear weapons as a first resort, I doubt it would take much to push him to that point.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#115136: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:32:44 PM

I don't think Trump would really do it. All of our candidates right now are easily smart enough to know that the use of nuclear weapons is a bad idea, even if only out of Pragmatic Villainy.

Leviticus 19:34
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#115137: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:33:37 PM

Even if they tried, the JCS wouldn't allow it.

Really I can't think of any candidate that wouldn't get shut down by the JCS pretty much immediately

Oh really when?
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#115138: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:33:56 PM

Regarding territories, at this point it's ridiculous how little control and representation they get as American citizens, so I think that all of them ought to be up for statehood. This isn't likely to be a big deal in the sense that most of America isn't aware of it for a while, though. We only hear about Puerto Rico because they've had referendums on it. Dunno if the American Virgin Islands have had a vote on it. (It would add a black majority state if they did, I think, which might explain some resistance.)

I think it ought to be a bigger deal, though. Not like the old requirements could logically apply anymore.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#115139: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:37:24 PM

[up]Well, there's that and that it has a population of less than 200,000. That applies to most non-Puerto Rico territories, I think. A lot of people don't like the idea of giving two senators to populations that low.

edited 9th Mar '16 8:37:42 PM by LSBK

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#115140: Mar 9th 2016 at 8:37:25 PM

Jews, Catholics, Hispanics, Italians, Muslims, KKK has gone after them all at one time or another.

Way back there was racism against Italian immigrants, but nowadays I think we're past that what with a huge number of people tracing their descent from Italy in the US, and I don't think Italian is considered a "race" anymore.

Although, looking at Wikipedia, apparently Italy is actually genetically distinct from Europe and the Italians are most closely related to Ashkenazi Jews, which kind of fits now that I think about it (my nonna was from Sicily). Ironic really.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#115142: Mar 9th 2016 at 9:22:56 PM

Way back there was racism against Italian immigrants, but nowadays I think we're past that what with a huge number of people tracing their descent from Italy in the US, and I don't think Italian is considered a "race" anymore.

Yeah, just pointing out the KKK has gone after just about everyone at one time or another, not saying that Italians are a race. Plus, our people never let go of grudges, so we gotta keep alive the memory of the Italians who were mass lynched that one time (or maybe two times) in the South and give the South malocchio until geologic shifts cause it to be swallowed by the ocean. wink

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#115143: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:20:54 PM

Well, the idea of having two senators for a state is about balancing out the proportional representation in the house, the people who don't like giving small populations two senators can go suck it. Like I said, the old qualifications don't matter in a day when we're not expanding our territory outward anymore.

edited 9th Mar '16 10:21:25 PM by AceofSpades

Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#115144: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:29:18 PM

[up][up]That was my reaction to that racist jerk who has his own political party saying that voting against Trump was a betrayal of [my] heritage. "The German and Norse parts who got called 'damn Yankees' after moving to the south, or the Celtic parts who weren't considered 'white' until they got a little Irish in your daughters' Anglo-Saxon?"

edited 9th Mar '16 10:37:06 PM by Artificius

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#115145: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:35:57 PM

[up][up]I'm just saying, it's a roadblock. Sometimes the idea of combining all the Non-Puerto Rico territories into a single state to make up for that perceived issue is floated but that comes with a bunch of other problems.

Edit: But if we're being technical the last time a "population requirement" was even relevant I think it was like 65,000 or something. It was from the 1800s when all the states were obviously much less populated but it was a thing. So there's that.

edited 9th Mar '16 10:37:18 PM by LSBK

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115146: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:03:19 PM

[up]

At the same time, it's patently unfair just how shitty we treat them, especially when Guam, for example, is a huge recruiting pool for the US military (1/8 of the population are US veterans), while the nearest VA hospital is in... Hawaii. As in nearly 4,000 miles away. Shit needs changing, and I'd love to see that get a bigger push in Congress.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#115147: Mar 10th 2016 at 1:08:36 AM

Why the Baby Boomers don't get Sanders:

Hillary is speaking for their concerns, Sanders is speaking to the re-proletarization going on among the young. (i.e. Sanders speaks like a traditional Democrat to an audience who are basically 21st century traditional Democrats)

(Vox) The Republicans knowingly framed Obama and Obamacare as 'radical' and Trump is the result of portraying normal politics as INSANE AND DANGEROUS.

And they can't walk back from it because that would discredit their own narrative.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#115148: Mar 10th 2016 at 6:13:33 AM

Yup, when the GOP decided that they weren't going to give Obama an inch and needed to sell that narrative to their base, now their base views getting anything less than 100% of what they wanted as treason.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#115149: Mar 10th 2016 at 6:20:17 AM

It didn't start with Obama, but certainly his time in office has marked the apotheosis of that strategy and its metastasis through the GOP voter base.

edited 10th Mar '16 6:21:10 AM by Fighteer

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Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#115150: Mar 10th 2016 at 6:32:15 AM

Mark Levin endorses Ted Cruz in honor of Nancy Reagan.

BTW there is a GOP debate tonight.

edited 10th Mar '16 6:41:50 AM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.

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