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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#115076: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:17:11 AM

To re-rail things, Fiorina is now backing Cruz.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#115077: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:36:17 AM

Remember when Fiorina was relatively sane?

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#115078: Mar 9th 2016 at 10:37:21 AM

Jon Voight backs Donald Trump BTW. I know the guy is a staunch Republican, but I feel like the only reason he backed the Donald was so he could play him in a future movie. The two look strangely alike, sans the hair.

[up]She despises Hil and Trump both, while Rubio is clearly imploding. It's a tactical choice on her part, though I know a lot of former supporters of hers who feel rather betrayed...

edited 9th Mar '16 10:38:22 AM by FFShinra

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#115079: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:08:55 AM

[up][up] Not really, given her auto hate-on for Planned Parenthood.

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#115080: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:10:32 AM

Yeah, Fiorina was always a crackpot; she just seemed sane until she started opening her mouth in a political arena.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#115081: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:11:54 AM

She's an ideologue and an incompetent one at that. Seriously, how do you drive HP of all companies into the ground?!

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#115082: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:16:54 AM

She was handed HP precisely because it was already leaning into dirt.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#115083: Mar 9th 2016 at 11:58:13 AM

So apparently Clinton and Sanders will be debating again tonight. Really hope it goes well for him and he can ride the Michigan momentum to the nomination.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#115084: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:11:26 PM

Huh. So let me see if I can understand this...

From what I understand here, the people who vote in the primaries are those registered with their parties. Why is the number so discrepant? And why does it vary so much from state to state? In new mexico theres a hundredthousand democrats and only a few thousand republicans boting but the voting age opulation is like a million and a half?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#115085: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:14:09 PM

They have low engagement.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#115086: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:18:32 PM

The Hungry for power games returns I wonder what they'll do for Bernie or Hillary when they fall, especially Bernie, as some people in the audience probably will actually be crying. And I can only imagine the spectacle of the final cornucopia battle that will be the general election

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Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#115087: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:21:31 PM

@Septimus a few pages back: what i meant is that the Democrats wouldn't want a Majority Leader who isn't a Democrat. I said "thought leader" earlier when i shouldn't have, he really can't have a formal leadership position unless he's willing to change affiliation. I mean, he could, but the Democrats in congress are a very procedural and seniority-based organization and it would ruffle a lot of feathers if Sanders line-jumped, even though he is one of the more senior Senators who caucuses with them.

He can continue to lend his weight to causes for perhaps 1 more term (his current one ends in 2018), or retire and spend what remains of his life campaigning for causes, as he's good on the stump and has a strong message and can help people who most need visibility get it.

He should start a Foundation, honestly.

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A nice butterfly
#115088: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:23:16 PM

only half of you people vote? Why did I ever think the U.S.' was higher?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#115089: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:27:53 PM

[up]

Might have something to do with the entire "registering to vote" thing, among other related issues? Until I heard about that, I assumed they could vote after legally becoming an adult.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#115090: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:30:29 PM

@Ogodei: Methinks "thought leader" was a different topic from what I am wishing.

Whether such a campaign will lead to the Democrats accepting Sanders as a caucus leader is not so important as to push Congress in a more left direction. And to keep the Sanders surge active past White House primary season. This is why I am wishing for this.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#115092: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:42:00 PM

So, my mother supports Kasich and, from the sound of things, won't vote for anyone else in the General election (she's hard-line Pro-Life, akin to Brazil in mindset). Part of her rationale is that she wants the political bickering in Washington to stop, and thinks he'd be the only one able to accomplish that.

I don't think it's that simple, especially because, if anyone but someone with an (R) next to their name wins the Presidency, the Republicans will continue to bitch, moan, and stonewall regardless of whether it's Sanders, Clinton, or Jack Shit of Podunk, Michigan. And getting them to stop by electing a Republican would be like getting your kid to stop throwing a tantrum by finally giving him the cookie - the wrong lesson gets learned.

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#115093: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:42:51 PM

You should mention that Kasich also wants to return us to the gold standard, which would turn our economy into something akin to Brazil's in short order.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
darksidevoid Anti-Gnosis Weapon from The Frontiers (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Anti-Gnosis Weapon
#115094: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:51:18 PM

Might have something to do with the entire "registering to vote" thing, among other related issues? Until I heard about that, I assumed they could vote after legally becoming an adult.

Oh no, automatic registration with an ability to opt out would be far too difficult! I mean, do you really want the evil gov't to have a list of registered voters in a database? Besides, how are we going to pay for it, raising taxes? Sorry, we can't enact legislation ensuring your right to have a say in whether we're elected because it might overly burden job creators. If you want to vote, take time off of work to register and to pay for the correct kind of ID card depending on your state's laws and then take time off work again to actually cast a ballot, since creating a genuine national holiday for Election Day would be too much of a drag on the economy and also probably violate states' rights or something. Don't forget to register for the draft, though, in case we need to throw you into whatever real or falsified war we decide to undertake next! Now get back to slaving away at your underpaid job without adequate benefits or vacation time, plebeian!

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#115095: Mar 9th 2016 at 1:08:59 PM

[up]

Now what makes that funny, is that in Finland you can't opt out from anything. Not the draft or voter registration, among other things that are kind of automatic. There's only one way to opt out from Finland.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#115096: Mar 9th 2016 at 1:11:42 PM

"or Jack Shit of Podunk, Michigan"

Interesting. What are his platforms? Better toilets for all? That's a campaign I can get behind! If he ends up being #2 in the polls, I will be very down in the dumps.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#115098: Mar 9th 2016 at 1:17:26 PM

I still say we get Vermin Supreme and Jimmy Mc Millan to run on a ticket together.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#115099: Mar 9th 2016 at 1:27:47 PM

@ Terminus: Can you opt out of voting, or do you have compulsory voting, like Australia?

Keep Rolling On
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#115100: Mar 9th 2016 at 1:42:21 PM

Oh no, automatic registration with an ability to opt out would be far too difficult! I mean, do you really want the evil gov't to have a list of registered voters in a database? Besides, how are we going to pay for it, raising taxes? Sorry, we can't enact legislation ensuring your right to have a say in whether we're elected because it might overly burden job creators. If you want to vote, take time off of work to register and to pay for the correct kind of ID card depending on your state's laws and then take time off work again to actually cast a ballot, since creating a genuine national holiday for Election Day would be too much of a drag on the economy and also probably violate states' rights or something. Don't forget to register for the draft, though, in case we need to throw you into whatever real or falsified war we decide to undertake next! Now get back to slaving away at your underpaid job without adequate benefits or vacation time, plebeian!

While the difficulties associated with voter registration and other laws specifically intended to make it hard for the poor to vote are certainly a thing, you should also never underestimate voter apathy.


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