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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The Clinton era was good to minorities. Crime Bill was savage but it did gut the gangs, and the 90s economy did see real upswing in actual earnings.
So it's no wonder the older voters who remember that period fondly are backing her.
Sanders appeals to a sizable number of young voters who feel they got a raw deal after the 2008 crash.
Associated Press calls it for Sanders in Michigan
edited 8th Mar '16 8:37:09 PM by PotatoesRock
Older and/or rural. Blacks who live mainly in rural areas have very different concerns from their urban counterparts.
It's good to see Bernie possibly wining Michigan, it gladdens the heart, but with it split so close and all (or virtually all) Democratic primaries splitting delegates proportionately rather than a winner take all system, a near 50/50 split in Michigan and a blowout for Clinton in Miss., may still see Sanders either slipping further behind or just barely treading water in the delegate count. But it gives me hope for the big hurdles coming up for next week, including that the facts that it looks like the traditional polling systems have gone completely to shit, which means in many of the tough states to come Sanders may be closer than anyone anticipates. *Crosses fingers for next Tuesday*
edited 8th Mar '16 8:48:33 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |I hate being right: according to a new total I just saw, Clinton picked up 93 delegates tonight to 73 for Sanders, meaning Bernie falls a little further behind in a race where he's already got a big deficit to overcome. Winning battles here and there but losing the war.
Still, a few more upsets like this and maybe he can keep it competitive, get extra fundraising, (he apparently outspent Clinton in Michigan by around a million dollars) and get more people looking to vote for him in the states to come.
Not surprising, but this is a case where I'm inclined to agree with the assessment, according to what I've seen and read.
edited 8th Mar '16 9:48:07 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |They were already hoping to make a fight of it anyway to try and be seen as martyrs. Instead everything they did just made them seem like a bunch of asshole rednecks. Not only did they massively inconvenience the town, they also left a huge mess for the police to clean up, not to mention apparently damaging tribal grounds.
Ohio if memory serves has an black minority strong enough to matter in a Democratic primary. Perhaps not as strong as say Louisiana and Missisippi, but they still matter.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanDoesn't California have a significant population? Nothing compared to Hispanics to be sure, but I coulda sworn...
Gotta wonder how High Priest Cruz is gonna handle this tomorrow morning.
...Please Villainous Breakdown please Villainous Breakdown...
edited 8th Mar '16 11:45:24 PM by NickTheSwing
As a fellow Californian I am feeling the Bern!
Hopefully we get some good results in soon.
Despite the everything about him, I am enjoying seeing Trump's victories because it means every night Ted Cruz goes to bed realizing more and more he is not, in fact, The Chosen One.
And one day he'll have a screaming rant about this result.
The Sanders upset in Michigan is genuinely huge, though. It keeps him in the race and confounds the narrative that he's bound to lose due to polling. That'll combat voter apathy and cynicism. On the other hand, Hillary increased her pledged delegate lead tonight, to say nothing of her superdelegate advantage.
Proof of the pudding will be in Ohio and Illinois. See if he can keep a 'Sanders surge' going.
edited 9th Mar '16 12:38:08 AM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der ParteiWish that he'd start a campaign for Senate majority leader when/if Sanders loses the presidential primary. The Democrats need that extra enthusiasm for the Senate election and their probable future leader there strikes me as even more Wall Street stooge than Hillary.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe Sanders/Clinton duel sounds excellent for the Dems. One of Hillary's main issues was that the primaries were supposed to be a cakewalk, which means that it would be inaudible and boring compared to the much more disputed Republican one, and that it could be a crippling weakness when faced against whoever wins on the other side (because it wouldn't encourage voters to come on election day). But Sanders avoided that, while on the contrary the Republican primary is disputed in the wrong sense of the term - instead of leading to a strong leader that unites the party, it will select someone who will divide it (whether it is Cruz or Trump).
That sounds like good omens for the Democrats.

That doesn't surprise me.