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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#114601: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:04:08 PM

@Blue Ninja

More Il Duce and the Ayatollah I think. Anybody else taken the "Trump or Mussolini" quiz? It is depressingly hard to tell whose quotes are whose.

edited 5th Mar '16 6:04:39 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#114602: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:11:32 PM

The problem with Cruz is the opposite of Trump, embodying the excesses of conservatism rather than abandoning it: Small government to the point of nonexistence (except where it's convenient, ie. military), free market to the point of dystopia, and socially conservative to the point of theocracy.

And in a game of Would You Rather? I'd still pick that over Trump. Because if he respected states' rights as much as he says he does, at least there's a chance of decency carving out an existence somewhere in the country.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#114603: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:15:44 PM

I don't like playing Would You Rather with the Republicans. I prefer voting for one of the two people in their way.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#114604: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:20:52 PM

[up][up] See, for the nominating process, I'd pick Trump over Cruz, 'cause Trump is all but guaranteed to lose if put in the general election, while there's enough uncertainty about Cruz's chances to be worrying.

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#114605: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:21:45 PM

[up][up]...One more round, then call it quits? "I would rather have a President Trump than a Cruz because it would let Matt and Trey give the office to Garrison?"

edited 5th Mar '16 6:22:00 PM by Artificius

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#114606: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:34:02 PM

These are small fish though.

So even when Sanders proves that he isn't backing down and that he can really beat Clinton, his victories are still diminished marginalized? sad

edited 5th Mar '16 6:34:17 PM by SciFiSlasher

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#114607: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:42:07 PM

[up][up] If Trump wins the election South Park goes off the air. Their is no way Trump will let a show that had his Canadian counterpart raped to death, and with will no doubt take the gloves off when it comes to criticizing him as President, stay on the air. He'll ether have them arrested for "threatening the life of the President" or something like that over the whole rape thing, sue them out of existence, or something much worse.

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#114608: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:49:59 PM

So even when Sanders proves that he isn't backing down and that he can really beat Clinton, his victories are still diminished marginalized?

I'm a Sanders supporter, and if I hadn't missed a deadline to switch from Independent to Democrat I'd gladly vote for him in the NY primary, but these are facts.

  • Fact: Kansas has 37 delegates at play, which will be split.
  • Fact: Nebraska has 30 delegates at play, which will be split.
  • Fact: Not counting super delegates, Clinton is about 200 delegates ahead right now.
  • Fact: Upcoming major states that will vote withing the next week and a half alone include Florida, (246 delegates) Ohio, (160 delegates) Michigan, (147 delegates) Illinois, (186 delegates) and North Carolina. (121 delegates)

So it's not minimizing to state that Nebraska or Kansas are little fish. They just are. My eyes are on the days to come, especially the 15th, (when Florida, Illinois, Ohio, and North Carolina all vote) because to my mind that's a make or break day. A win or die day. And in every one of those states I listed, Bernie is down between 15-30% against Clinton. Which could be bad polling, (particularly in Ohio and Illinois, which have been criminally under polled considering the delegates they have to give) or could be a possible knockout punch for the campaign.

Hence why my eyes are on those dates, and not so much on Kansas, Louisiana, or Nebraska. Does that make sense?

(Hell, Nebraska and Kansas are such small fish that Louisiana has more delegates than both of them combined, and Clinton is going to take at least 70% of the vote in that state, maybe more, which outright negates winning Kansas and Nebraska and maybe leaves Bernie further behind than when he started today.)

edited 5th Mar '16 6:57:58 PM by TheWanderer

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#114609: Mar 5th 2016 at 7:17:57 PM

Surprising to hear Sanders is behind in Michigan and Ohio, they seem like the types of states he could win.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#114610: Mar 5th 2016 at 7:28:32 PM

[up]If African-American voters from Michigan's inner cities are for Clinton rather than Sanders, they're more than capable of turning the voting there against him I would expect. Especially if much of rural Michigan is pro-Republican.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#114611: Mar 5th 2016 at 8:06:25 PM

I'm morbidly curious how much of Flint, if any, still registers as Republican after its fiasco.

edited 5th Mar '16 8:06:35 PM by sgamer82

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#114612: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:17:57 PM

Well apparently one Utah senator for some reason decided the town didn't need aid and is blocking a bill to give it that.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#114614: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:29:01 PM

Oh wow, the next Democratic debate is going to be in Flint.

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#114615: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:46:44 PM

I wonder how much traction the "but the Flint mayor is a Democrat!" argument holds with local residents?

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#114616: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:48:22 PM

I would say less than the "The bitch holding up aid to our town just because he thinks Michigan has enough money is a Republican" argument.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#114617: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:53:31 PM

Just took that "Trump or Mussolini" quiz. It was really hard. Their speaking style is surprising similar. Trump seems to talk about himself slightly more and Mussolini was slightly more eloquent, but i's so close that I answered incorrectly almost as often as I did correctly.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#114618: Mar 5th 2016 at 9:58:15 PM

The mayor tried to get relief for the town, but Snyder, in appointing an emergency manager to the town, removed all effective power from the local governance. There was a segment on Maddow's show a few weeks ago about how the city council tried to pass some measures but it was effectively useless because of this removal of power. So yeah, the political alignment of the mayor kind of doesn't matter when they have no actual ability to do anything.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#114619: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:07:16 PM

The whole thing in Flint has been a huge mismanagement that Sanders or Clinton could use to their advantage. It depends on who's the more skilled orator between them both, and with such an important state issue it could swing it in either one's favor.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#114620: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:47:29 PM

[up]x3

Amusingly, I did know already some of the things that were there, but never was I so sure of the right answer being Mussolini, when he said "I don't like the look of him" about Hitler.

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#114621: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:04:34 PM

... so is it unfair to call the Trump v Cruz primary a choice between Der Fuhrer and the Ayatollah?

Only to the Ayatollah.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#114622: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:29:21 AM

More Il Duce and the Ayatollah I think. Anybody else taken the "Trump or Mussolini" quiz? It is depressingly hard to tell whose quotes are whose.

I tried it and got nine out of ten. Mostly because Mussolini's remarks are far better articulated and more eloquent and poetic than Trump's style of talking.

Now, if you want a real challenge, try the "Donald Trump or Donald Duck?" quiz.

edited 6th Mar '16 1:31:40 AM by DrDougsh

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#114623: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:35:11 AM

So even when Sanders proves that he isn't backing down and that he can really beat Clinton, his victories are still diminished marginalized?

He didn't beat Clinton, because she wins where it counts in the primary race. Louisiana contributes more delegates than Nebraska or Kansas, and Hillary blew Bernie out there whilst running him close in NE and KS. In Kansas, Bernie won 23 delegates to Hillary's 10. In Nebraska, he won 14 delegates to Hillary's 11. In Louisiana, though Hillary won 39 delegates against 12 for Bernie.

Add the totals together, and Bernie took 49 delegates from those three states, whilst Hillary took 60.

EDIT: ROMANIA YES!

edited 6th Mar '16 1:51:52 AM by Achaemenid

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#114624: Mar 6th 2016 at 3:02:05 AM

Anybody else taken the "Trump or Mussolini" quiz? It is depressingly hard to tell whose quotes are whose.

I got a 10/10 separating them from each other. They have a very different language. Trump uses very small words, boasts, barely any metaphors. Mussolini's always got his head in the jungle

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#114625: Mar 6th 2016 at 3:05:37 AM

[up]

Mussolini's always got his head in the jungle

Mussolini was a former (Socialist) journalist and newspaper editor, so that isn't a surprise.

edited 6th Mar '16 3:07:23 AM by Greenmantle

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