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#114551: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:40:54 AM

[up]There was an article posted a couple of pages ago by a Republican voter who felt more or less the same; he didn't vote for the Obama, but he appreciated how he respected and kept decorum in the presidency. Something that he has no faith in Trump to uphold, given the way he's acting now.

edited 5th Mar '16 10:44:48 AM by wehrmacht

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#114552: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:45:41 AM

[up][up]

Of course, the thing to keep in mind is that, if their behavior regarding Bill Clinton is any indication, Congressional Republicans would have viewed any Democratic President as someone "needing to be stopped", regardless of who the person actually was.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114553: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:50:20 AM

[up][up]My opinion on Obama is that I like him as a person, but I don't like his politics, and I'm not sure if he has his priorities straight. My opinion is that he's perhaps a bit too concerned with his public image. In any given situation he has to be "the bigger person", even when it's not always logical to do so; and for lack of a better term, he's rather "apologetic" about America.

Having said that, I'd totally play Mario Kart with him. That'd be fun.

edited 5th Mar '16 10:50:40 AM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#114554: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:52:11 AM

His, uh, public image is, uh, pretty much impeccable. Even when he's, uh, trolling, he's nothing but dignified and elegant.

I, uh, guess it might have something to do with, uh, defying stereotypes of black people.

edited 5th Mar '16 10:52:57 AM by TheHandle

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#114555: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:53:33 AM

@ darksidevoid: There actually is a problem. Quite a few of the banks involved were not American, and so Bush or Obama had little power over them.

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Soopor Agent Peacock from Talon IV (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Agent Peacock
#114556: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:14:47 AM

Donald Trump's New Orleans rally on Friday interrupted by protesters.

As a resident of Louisiana, I am both proud and sickened. Proud to see we actually had some local protesters, but also pissed that so many people here support him.

And he dares insult the protesters, specifically as Louisianians, for 'taking too long' to be ushered out, and for having the cameras' face the wrong way' as footage of the protest is filmed instead of his ugly mug. He also refers to the protesters as 'disgusting', and 'the most dishonest people you'll meet.'

He goes so far as to reference when BLM protesters spoke with Bernie, and commented that 'his (Trump's) speaker will never be taken over.'

edited 5th Mar '16 11:19:46 AM by Soopor

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#114557: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:17:18 AM

@Protagonist 506 - On which issue is he too apologetic for, if I may ask?

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#114558: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:25:33 AM

Here's a thing for a change of pace:

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#114559: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:28:40 AM

[up]x4 Yes, but that doesn't preclude the fact that Obama did nothing to prosecute the bad apples in financial institutions which were and are American, or the fact that he did nothing to prosecute the bad apples on the American side of foreign financial institutions. That he lacked the power to bring down the hammer of existing laws on all of them does not excuse him for failing to even attempt to do so with regard to any of them at all. Even if he had attempted to do so and failed due to insufficient legal grounds, he could have used that failure as a basis for pushing forward a regulatory bill from a stronger position than he had with Dodd-Frank. Instead, he just said something to the effect of, "We should leave the past in the past".

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#114560: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:35:34 AM

[up][up]Anarchism: The belief that nobody can be trusted with the power of the state, but that nearly everybody can be trusted to follow rules even when they aren't being enforced by state power.

Leviticus 19:34
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#114561: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:44:19 AM

[up] Anarchism at its most basic believes that it is the community, not any sort of state, that should make decisions for themselves. Which is why I am not an anarchist, because I don't trust my community. Because this isn't a perfect world, capitalism, communism, and anarchism simply can't be expected to actually work.

And I'll say it-Somalia.

Now as for Trump-he won't be elected president. I can say that much. But he will get the GOP nomination unless their leadership decides to do an epic swerve. So what will happen to Trump when he loses and Clinton/Sanders becomes prez?

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#114562: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:52:26 AM

My guess: He'll throw a massive tantrum, he'll try to fire everybody, he'll sue the people he can't fire, and he'll just generally act like his normal obnoxious, immature, egotistical self.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#114563: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:55:05 AM

[up][up] one thing I thought recently is Trump will never concede on election day. He'll hold out until the very last vote before he comes close to acknowledging he lost, even if it's a landslide.

edited 5th Mar '16 11:55:15 AM by sgamer82

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#114564: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:02:44 PM

he'll sue the people he can't fire
I do wonder whether SCOTUS would laugh, or sigh, at hearing opening arguments for Trump v. US. I worry more that he'll encourage the more reactionary types to turn to violence, esp against minorities, after (or worse during) the election in an attempt to bully his way to victory regardless of the votes.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114565: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:04:05 PM

[up][up][up][up]I suppose it depends on the type of anarchism, but yes that's true. I'd argue that, the wall many forms of anarchism run into is that, when trying to replace the state with something else, that entity becomes the state. This essentially turns anarchism into totalitarianism by reverse means-where as in totalitarianism the state takes over all other aspects of life and becomes an all-controlling entity, in anarchism those other aspects of life take over the role of the state leading to the exact same entity. For example, in Anarcho-Capitalism you'd end up with Businesses taking on the role of the state and seizing control of all property and trade, effectively making it into a Stalinist Regime in practice.

The Horseshoe Effect in action.

edited 5th Mar '16 12:04:29 PM by Protagonist506

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#114566: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:05:14 PM

Now as for Trump-he won't be elected president. I can say that much. But he will get the GOP nomination unless their leadership decides to do an epic swerve. So what will happen to Trump when he loses and Clinton/Sanders becomes prez?
Book Deals, TV shows, Trump merchandise.

The Republicans have a very very profitable industry in books, movies, TV shows, cushy jobs for former politicians.

Think of what happened to Santorum, Palin, and Gingrich.

Trump'll be fine.

edited 5th Mar '16 12:06:20 PM by PotatoesRock

flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
The would-be novelist
#114567: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:13:04 PM

[up]We all know that Trump'll stay rich ( he IS a successful business man before getting into the race). We're just wondering about his political career.

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#114568: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:19:34 PM

[up][up] Trump's already got all of that — wasn't he presenting The Apprentice?

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#114570: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:41:04 PM

[up][up] Trump's already got all of that — wasn't he presenting The Apprentice?
Yes, but the show's ratings were shriveling up to the point it wasn't worth it anymore.

So he jumped to his next group of marks. Why go down as the host of The Apprentice, when you could be President, or become the sage to thousands to millions of Republicans?

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#114571: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:01:11 PM

Notorious R.B.G slays fools like it ain't no thing

Wednesday’s oral arguments in Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, probably the most important Supreme Court abortion case since 1992, centered around one key question: Does a Texas law that forces abortion clinics to meet stringent new standards—in the name of shielding “women’s health”—impose an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to terminate her pregnancy? In other words, would the law make it difficult, or maybe even impossible, for many Texas women to exercise their right to abortion? And if so, can the state wave away this issue by insisting, without much evidence, that such draconian regulations are still necessary to protect women?

Seconds after Texas Solicitor General Scott Keller began to speak Wednesday morning, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg zeroed in on the “undue burden” question—quickly and mercilessly knocking Keller off balance and setting the tone for the rest of his nearly 40 minutes at the lectern. Ginsburg asked Keller how many women would live 100 miles or more from a clinic if the Texas law went into effect. About 25 percent, he responded—but that didn’t include the clinic in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, just over the border from El Paso. The existence of this clinic featured heavily in the 5th Circuit’s decision to uphold the Texas statute; it asserted that the law did not impose on “undue burden” on abortion-seeking El Paso women, because they could simply cross state lines for the procedure.

“That’s odd that you point to the New Mexico facility,” Ginsburg said, in a clear and firm voice. New Mexico, after all, doesn’t force abortion clinics to meet the same standards that Texas would—standards which, Texas claims, are absolutely critical to protect women.

“So if your argument is right,” Ginsburg continued, “then New Mexico is not an available way out for Texas, because Texas says: To protect our women, we need these things. But send them off to New Mexico,” to clinics with more lenient standards, “and that’s perfectly all right.”

“Well,” Ginsburg concluded, with just a hint of pique in her voice, “If that’s all right for the women in the El Paso area, why isn’t it right for the rest of the women in Texas?”

Speaking of abortion laws, the court voted 7-1 to halt a Louisiana law that is nearly identical to the Texas law currently being considered by the Court, which may be a sign that they are going to rule that these laws do place an undue burden on those seeking abortion. (Which considering that the laws in question disqualify clinics for not havng wide enough hallways, or signs in exactly the right font size, and so on and so forth, goes under the category of "duh!")

The Supreme Court voted on Friday to put a temporary hold on a Louisiana law that would have closed all but one abortion clinic in the state. The 2014 law, which requires abortion providers to have admitting privileges at hospitals, mirrors one of the two parts of contested Texas law HB 2, on which the Supreme Court heard arguments this week. Friday’s decision to block enforcement of Louisiana’s law could be a death knell for HB 2, which also requires abortion clinics to adopt the strict building conditions of an ambulatory surgical center.

Clarence Thomas was the lone dissenter in Friday’s Louisiana decision, which reversed a federal appeals court’s February 2016 order that the state be allowed to enforce the law while it was making its way through the courts. After Friday’s ruling, two clinics that closed after that February order will reopen. Another, in Shreveport, which would have likely closed if the law was upheld, will continue to provide abortion care.

edited 5th Mar '16 1:42:38 PM by TheWanderer

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#114572: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:23:01 PM

Cruz is willing to help Trump in order to sink the Rubio campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/ted-cruz-marco-rubio-florida/index.html

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#114573: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:25:30 PM

What's there to sink? He took, like, a state.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114574: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:25:42 PM

And again, my forehead is turning red with all of this facepalming.

Leviticus 19:34
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#114575: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:41:06 PM

What's there to sink? He took, like, a state.

In most states, however, Cruz and Rubio are taking in nearly identical numbers of votes. Cruz' big hope is that he could convert most of Rubio's support to himself if Rubio drops out, and then Cruz would have the ammo needed to either defeat or at least go neck and neck with Trump. Getting rid of Rubio is probably Cruz' top priority at this point, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cruz spends the next week to week and a half firing salvos non-stop at Rubio.

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