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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#114501: Mar 4th 2016 at 5:20:19 PM

Ah, I forgot Greenland and Bermuda.

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#114503: Mar 4th 2016 at 5:25:24 PM

[up][up][up] I did recently hear someone say that they think that at some point, Chiapas will eventually secede from Mexico.

Also-anyone have any current stats on Sanders' standings in tomorrow's states?

EDIT: [nja]

edited 4th Mar '16 5:25:45 PM by SciFiSlasher

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#114504: Mar 4th 2016 at 6:22:55 PM

[up]Some people from Chiapas do think it was a mistake to return to Mexico after their failed attempt at forming a republic with the Central American countries. Unfortunately, the people who think that are, for the most part, indigenous, so no one takes them seriously. Also, Chiapas is too poor and too much of a mess to really do anything. Especially after the Zapatistas became irrelevant.

However, it is believed that if the Yucatan peninsula states declared their independence (again), Chiapas could join them.

Now, these are merely rumours, but if Mexico ends up in a war againt the US, the southern states could take advantage of that and go their way. Which is why so many Mexicans are so interested in the US election. If Trump wins, some Mexicans may benefit from that.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#114505: Mar 4th 2016 at 7:06:57 PM

Also-anyone have any current stats on Sanders' standings in tomorrow's states?

I think most people expect Louisiana to go to Clinton, Nebraska and Kansas should be close, and Maine is likely to go Bernie's way.

Trouble is, the March 15th primaries include some big, battleground states, including Florida, Ohio, Illinois, and North Carolina. And for the most part, they don't look good for Bernie. At all. If Clinton picks them up, it's hard to see where Bernie can make up for it, especially since every one of those states has more delegates up for grabs than any so far, except for Texas.

That's why I've been sadly predicting that the primary is likely to be over for all intents and purposes by the 15th. Bernie may continue to fight on, but unless he pulls off some upsets or does better than expected, it's hard to see him having a path forward, to quote Mr. Carson.

edited 4th Mar '16 7:08:47 PM by TheWanderer

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#114506: Mar 4th 2016 at 7:16:58 PM

Now, these are merely rumours, but if Mexico ends up in a war againt the US...,

[up][up]Wait, what? What rumours? This is the first I've heard of it...

edited 4th Mar '16 7:17:11 PM by kkhohoho

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#114507: Mar 4th 2016 at 7:34:50 PM

Unfortunately, medical circumstances (unplanned gallbladder removal) have conspired to keep me from caucusing here in Nebraska.

Kinda sad that I'm unable to participate in the democratic process prior to the general election.

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#114508: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:04:38 PM

Carson has officially ended his campaign

And then there were 4.

Mitt Romney on Friday became the highest-profile Republican to vow not to vote for Donald Trump if the controversial businessman becomes the GOP presidential nominee.

edited 4th Mar '16 8:06:10 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114509: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:22:40 PM

Steven Crowder (a Conservative) released a video called "Why Republicans Deserve to Lose". To quote him (with some paraphrasing):

"Republicans seem very good at one thing: Losing. In 2012, Obama was proposing a wildly unpopular healthcare bill. So naturally, the GOP nominates the only other American to have ever signed a similar bill. So, when the Democrats look posed to nominate a person who has the second highest unapproval rating in an election since Reagan, the Republicans appear poised to nominate the candidate with the second highest approval rating....Now, sometimes you have to gamble, I know. However, you only do it when the reward is high. So, what's our reward if Trump does win? We get, for our president, a lifelong democrat, pro-choice, anti-second amendment, anti-free speech, four bankruptcies, and self-admitted serial philanderer".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhNJoqs1eCE

edited 4th Mar '16 8:22:51 PM by Protagonist506

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#114510: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:50:28 PM

Honestly, I'm not exactly looking forward to Republicans blaming Trump's failings on being too liberal, instead of, you know, his authoritarian and discriminatory stances.

At least they object to everything about his personality, though.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#114511: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:53:45 PM

What's the saying, conservatism can't fail it can only be failed. What that guy said might make sense if the people were looking at things rationally but the opposition to Obamacare, among other things, never came off as particularly rational.

edited 4th Mar '16 8:54:38 PM by LSBK

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#114512: Mar 4th 2016 at 9:00:52 PM

Trump's greatest advantage is that people care far more about his rhetoric and soundbites than about his actual beliefs.

I suppose that's true of all politicians to some extent, but Trump couldn't get nominated in either party if people actually looked at his miss-mash of positions that range everywhere from the far-right to the center-left.

edited 4th Mar '16 9:03:16 PM by Demonic_Braeburn

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#114514: Mar 4th 2016 at 9:37:33 PM

Oh, come on! You had one chance to make yourselves useful.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#114515: Mar 4th 2016 at 9:39:10 PM

They wisely decided that they'd be pissing their money away, though. Trump's managed to build himself a criticism proof echo chamber.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114516: Mar 4th 2016 at 10:03:00 PM

I'll give everyone a nickel to vote Rubio instead of Trump.

edited 4th Mar '16 10:03:12 PM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#114517: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:20:11 PM

[up]Already did my duty in that regard. No dice. I'll try again in November.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#114518: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:39:08 PM

@Trump being too liberal vs too xenophobic: I consider him to be both. Where as he wants a welfare state for white people only, I want capitalism for everyone. In my eyes, Trump is basically the human avatar of Un-Americanism.

I think Conservatives in general will probably try to pin Trump's failures on his liberalism, even if they do consider him racist they don't consider it in their own interests to call him one. A lot of conservatives consider themselves victims of Political Correctness Gone Mad and are therefore reluctant to call someone else racist due to a sort of cry wolf effect.

Leviticus 19:34
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#114519: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:59:42 PM

That and it would potentially make the Solid South vote walk off, which would be a death kneel to the party.

darksidevoid Anti-Gnosis Weapon from The Frontiers (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Anti-Gnosis Weapon
#114520: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:08:44 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to note that racism exists and is a possible factor in directing voting behavior in every part of the country, not just the South. Conservative voters in the South are generally just the most vocal of their ilk about it. The scenario described would thus be potentially harmful to the GOP in far more than the South alone.

edited 5th Mar '16 12:09:39 AM by darksidevoid

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#114521: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:09:47 AM

Very much so.

But down here it is the primary issue for a lot of people.

Oh really when?
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#114522: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:49:43 AM

Trump kind of reminds me of Nixon. A moderate presenting himself a demagogue, all while subtly pandering to the more racist parts of American society.

The U.S. Supreme Court dealt a blow to efforts to track the quality and cost of health care, ruling that a 1974 law precludes states from requiring that every health care claim involving their residents be submitted to a massive database.m insurance plans.

edited 5th Mar '16 12:51:36 AM by Demonic_Braeburn

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#114523: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:20:42 AM

>subtly

o i am laffin

But yes, Trump shares some similarities to Nixon in that regard. Though I'm not so sure the Silent Majority applies,note  since he is appealing to people who voice their dissent quite loudly and have simply not been listened to. More importantly, any notion of Bringing Us Together is overridden by Making America Great Again,note  and apparently at any cost.

Or actually, at no cost.

Think of the core of his campaign: the wall. He's not paying for it. You're not paying for it. Mexico is paying for it. He's not going to cut out welfare, he's going to increase our military power, and force everybody to bring back jobs, all without costing you a dime. And his campaign doesn't even cost you your dignity, because you know he's best and last chance at desperately holding onto or taking back the dignity of "real Americans." That's the heart of Trump's deal with America.

Greatness has never been so cheap.

edited 5th Mar '16 1:41:43 AM by Eschaton

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#114525: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:59:29 AM

Hillary Clinton has agreed to join Bernie Sanders at a Fox News town hall on Monday night.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.

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