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edited 3rd Mar '16 10:23:57 AM by DrunkenNordmann
We learn from history that we do not learn from historyTimes like these make a fellow yearn for a simpler time… like the 1996 Dole-Kemp campaign
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He clearly believed that his testimony might lead to him being prosecuted, so he pled the Fifth until he was granted immunity. It's pretty standard, really.
edited 3rd Mar '16 11:25:08 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Well, obviously. Everyone's after the big fish at the top of the pile. No names, but her initials are HRC.
edited 3rd Mar '16 11:35:55 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I Love Dogs... you may want to look away now...
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-realistic-ways-donald-trump-can-accomplish-his-crazy-goals/
Can't stump the Trump:
Donald Trump: Mitt Romney 'would have dropped to his knees' for my endorsement
"I don't know what happened to him," Trump said during a rally in Portland, Maine. "You can see how loyal he is. He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said Mitt 'drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."
Just hours before Trump, Romney gave a speech blasting Trump as bad on foreign policy and lacking the temperament to be president.
News of the hour. Drumpf says Drumpf things.
"Mitt is tough. He is smart. He is sharp. He is not going to allow bad things to continue to happen to this country that we all love. So Gov. Romney, go out and get em. You can do it," Trump added.
edited 3rd Mar '16 12:06:46 PM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesOf course, the sentiment goes both ways. After all, it works.
edited 3rd Mar '16 12:09:50 PM by Eschaton
Conservative minorities are of an odd mindset about that, they get their ideas and then latch onto a "liberals are the real racists" mentality that somehow lets them ignore all of the actual racist shit their party does.
At least the Log Cabin Republicans, by comparison, understand that they're making a conscious tradeoff of economic policy for social policy by aligning themselves, instead of trying to foist off homophobia on the Democrats.
x4 So they're voting for Trump purely out of spite? One should vote for somebody because they agree with their policies (or at least enough of them), or to keep somebody they don't like from winning, not because they want to stick it to people who assumed they'd vote Democrat.
edited 3rd Mar '16 1:04:34 PM by speedyboris
It's an interesting combination of spite (and they are certainly voting to keep people they don't like from winning) but also genuine support.
"He's pissing off all the people I hate, so he must be doing something right!
Not to mentioned how his wildly contradictory stances and statements allow people to read whatever they like out of him, and know that he's got their back.
And as that Cracked article (and it's comments) mentions, his supporters do have legitimate grievances and hate that they are being written off as "racist."
edited 3rd Mar '16 1:21:33 PM by Eschaton
(NY Mag) FOX News dumps its support for the Rubio Bot
(Vox) President Obama is trolling Chuck Grassley, and it's Mitch McConnell's fault
(Basically Mitch doesn't want a Left/Moderate Justice on the Supreme Court, so it doesn't put his Republican allies in the Senate into a bad position come Election Day, and Obama is using the opportunity to point out how inept Grassley and Mitch are at governing.)

Surprisingly, despite his hatred of the toupee, Lindsey Graham says not to steal the nomination from Trump at the convention
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"If he got two thirds of what he needs, which I think he's well on his way to doing, for us to steal from him is not going to help the party," he added. "You can lose an election. We've lost an election before. But what I'm trying to do is focus on the day after we lose. Can we rebuild this party? Can we create a form of conservatism that's enticing to young people and people of color? I think we can. And I think that's the only hope for the Republican Party and, quite frankly, one of the big hopes of this country."
Trump is potentially destroying the Republican party and exploiting race in his bid to secure the Republican presidential nomination, Graham says. "He's trying to hedge his bets," Graham told CNN senior political commentator David Axelrod on "The Axe Files" podcast, produced by CNN and the University of Chicago Institute of Politics. "I don't think he supports the KKK. I don't think he's a racist. But he's playing a political game."
Asked by Axelrod before Trump's dominant showing on Super Tuesday if Trump is exploiting race for political gain, Graham replied, "Definitely. So far. But in the end it'll be the demise of Donald Trump and the Republican Party if we don't watch it."
Graham is no fan of one of Trump's top current rivals, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. The choice between Cruz and Trump, he said recently, is like the choice between being poisoned or shot. After criticism of Trump for being slow to disavow the KKK, Graham essentially said he'd pick the poison and that the party might have to rally around Cruz to stop Trump. He told Axelrod the GOP frontrunner is a "demagogue... playing on people's fears." "Our party is about to fall apart," he warned. "Immigration is our undoing."
"There's two things underlying his campaign: if you elect me, I'm going to get rid of them who are taking your job and corrupting our way of life and I'm going to make us safe again and secure again. And if you elect me, I'm going to make sure the Chinese and other people — foreign entities — don't take your job away from you unfairly." Trump's campaign is based on "xenophobia, race-baiting, and with just a tinge of religious bigotry," he added.