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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#114251: Mar 3rd 2016 at 10:09:55 AM

Surprisingly, despite his hatred of the toupee, Lindsey Graham says not to steal the nomination from Trump at the convention.

Despite Sen. Lindsey Graham's outspoken disapproval of Trump, the South Carolina Republican — who ended his own bid for president in December — warned that a brokered convention would not be "fair" to the real estate mogul. "He would leave — and he'd have a right to leave," cautioned Graham.

"If he got two thirds of what he needs, which I think he's well on his way to doing, for us to steal from him is not going to help the party," he added. "You can lose an election. We've lost an election before. But what I'm trying to do is focus on the day after we lose. Can we rebuild this party? Can we create a form of conservatism that's enticing to young people and people of color? I think we can. And I think that's the only hope for the Republican Party and, quite frankly, one of the big hopes of this country."

Trump is potentially destroying the Republican party and exploiting race in his bid to secure the Republican presidential nomination, Graham says. "He's trying to hedge his bets," Graham told CNN senior political commentator David Axelrod on "The Axe Files" podcast, produced by CNN and the University of Chicago Institute of Politics. "I don't think he supports the KKK. I don't think he's a racist. But he's playing a political game."

Asked by Axelrod before Trump's dominant showing on Super Tuesday if Trump is exploiting race for political gain, Graham replied, "Definitely. So far. But in the end it'll be the demise of Donald Trump and the Republican Party if we don't watch it."

Graham is no fan of one of Trump's top current rivals, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. The choice between Cruz and Trump, he said recently, is like the choice between being poisoned or shot. After criticism of Trump for being slow to disavow the KKK, Graham essentially said he'd pick the poison and that the party might have to rally around Cruz to stop Trump. He told Axelrod the GOP frontrunner is a "demagogue... playing on people's fears." "Our party is about to fall apart," he warned. "Immigration is our undoing."

"There's two things underlying his campaign: if you elect me, I'm going to get rid of them who are taking your job and corrupting our way of life and I'm going to make us safe again and secure again. And if you elect me, I'm going to make sure the Chinese and other people — foreign entities — don't take your job away from you unfairly." Trump's campaign is based on "xenophobia, race-baiting, and with just a tinge of religious bigotry," he added.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#114252: Mar 3rd 2016 at 10:14:01 AM

The thing is... Democrats need to treat Trump as a serious threat rather than a joke if they don't want Trump to win. The Republican Party treated him as a joke candidate and they got decimated by him. Treating Trump as a joke and not as a serious threat is what will lead to President Donald J. Trump.
In this context:

edited 3rd Mar '16 10:23:57 AM by DrunkenNordmann

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#114253: Mar 3rd 2016 at 10:51:03 AM

The Clinton staffer is getting immunity because he's the only one who wasn't cooperating and instead kept pleading the 5th.

This is important to note. Nobody's trying to hide anything here, except this one guy for some reason.

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#114254: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:03:09 AM

Why would an investigation offer immunity to the only person not talking?

None of the articles I've read thus far have indicated anyone other than this person having actually being interviewed.

edited 3rd Mar '16 11:21:58 AM by SolipsistOwl

majoraoftime (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#114255: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:10:27 AM

I miss him sad

Times like these make a fellow yearn for a simpler time… like the 1996 Dole-Kemp campaign.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#114256: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:23:11 AM

[up][up] He clearly believed that his testimony might lead to him being prosecuted, so he pled the Fifth until he was granted immunity. It's pretty standard, really.

edited 3rd Mar '16 11:25:08 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#114257: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:32:28 AM

They wouldn't grant someone so low on the totem pole immunity unless they have someone else in mind to investigate. It's not about him.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#114258: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:35:37 AM

Well, obviously. Everyone's after the big fish at the top of the pile. No names, but her initials are HRC.

edited 3rd Mar '16 11:35:55 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#114259: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:40:25 AM

And then it turns out he was just covering his ass about something and has nothing on her tongue

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Field Marshal of Cracked
#114260: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:44:10 AM

I Love Dogs... you may want to look away now... http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-realistic-ways-donald-trump-can-accomplish-his-crazy-goals/

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#114261: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:45:37 AM

I posted that earlier, actually.

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#114262: Mar 3rd 2016 at 11:57:58 AM

Can't stump the Trump:

Donald Trump: Mitt Romney 'would have dropped to his knees' for my endorsement

Donald Trump struck back at 2012 presidential hopeful Mitt Romney Thursday, blasting the former Massachusetts governor for "begging" for his endorsement four years ago only to sharply criticize him now.

"I don't know what happened to him," Trump said during a rally in Portland, Maine. "You can see how loyal he is. He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said Mitt 'drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."

Just hours before Trump, Romney gave a speech blasting Trump as bad on foreign policy and lacking the temperament to be president.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#114263: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:01:16 PM

Thats funny, because I can't remember Trump endorsing Romney in 2012, soooo.....

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#114264: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:01:53 PM

Whose willing to bet that Romney never talked to Trump in 2012?

Oh really when?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#114265: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:02:42 PM

News of the hour. Drumpf says Drumpf things.

And he did endorse him

"It is my honor, real honor, and privilege to endorse Mitt Romney," Trump said with Romney and Romney's wife Ann at his side for the brief announcement at a Las Vegas hotel bearing Trump's name.

"Mitt is tough. He is smart. He is sharp. He is not going to allow bad things to continue to happen to this country that we all love. So Gov. Romney, go out and get em. You can do it," Trump added.

edited 3rd Mar '16 12:06:46 PM by Aszur

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#114266: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:09:22 PM

I interview a comic friend named Sameer. He's 21-year-old student at USC. He's also gay and the son of immigrant parents from India. Would it surprise you to know he's voting for Drumpf? Like, adamantly. He's not even sort of on the fence about it. Tell him Drumpf's plans are racist, and he'll tell you that narrative stems from liberals believing that they "know what ethnics should think."
I think this is important, because even in this thread his supporters have been characterized as solely the issue of white racists (who certainly do dominate the discussion, as is their intention). But it's been shown how his appeal does reach across age, ethnicity, and geography. Because above all else, they hate being told what to do by people they think are full of shit.

Of course, the sentiment goes both ways. After all, it works.

edited 3rd Mar '16 12:09:50 PM by Eschaton

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#114267: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:17:14 PM

[up]

The research done on the subject seems to indicate, that the perceived threat of social change and physical threats combine to bring out support for authoritarian measures in all parts of society.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#114268: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:39:04 PM

Conservative minorities are of an odd mindset about that, they get their ideas and then latch onto a "liberals are the real racists" mentality that somehow lets them ignore all of the actual racist shit their party does.

At least the Log Cabin Republicans, by comparison, understand that they're making a conscious tradeoff of economic policy for social policy by aligning themselves, instead of trying to foist off homophobia on the Democrats.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#114269: Mar 3rd 2016 at 12:40:04 PM

Gauss bell.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#114270: Mar 3rd 2016 at 1:02:06 PM

[up]x4 So they're voting for Trump purely out of spite? One should vote for somebody because they agree with their policies (or at least enough of them), or to keep somebody they don't like from winning, not because they want to stick it to people who assumed they'd vote Democrat.

edited 3rd Mar '16 1:04:34 PM by speedyboris

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#114271: Mar 3rd 2016 at 1:07:47 PM

not because they want to stick it to people who assumed they'd vote Democrat.
This is politics. The enemy of my enemy gets my vote. At least that's how I'm choosing to interpret people like Ben Stein saying he'd vote for Hillary over Trump. And the reverse has its adherants as well.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#114272: Mar 3rd 2016 at 1:09:47 PM

It's an interesting combination of spite (and they are certainly voting to keep people they don't like from winning) but also genuine support.

"He's pissing off all the people I hate, so he must be doing something right!

Not to mentioned how his wildly contradictory stances and statements allow people to read whatever they like out of him, and know that he's got their back.

And as that Cracked article (and it's comments) mentions, his supporters do have legitimate grievances and hate that they are being written off as "racist."

edited 3rd Mar '16 1:21:33 PM by Eschaton

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#114274: Mar 3rd 2016 at 1:17:09 PM

Those Muslims Republicans are gonna change their mind fast when crosses start burning in their yard come election day.

Oh really when?
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#114275: Mar 3rd 2016 at 1:18:49 PM

I keep waiting for the GOP to just utter "The Only Winning Move Is Not To Play".


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