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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Enjoy. This includes the story behind that and so much more.
It's quite a read, I assure you. I think this here will make the most fitting preview:
Now who's white-centric again?
edited 2nd Mar '16 10:16:27 AM by Luminosity
Besides the whole "appealing to white voters" thing, something I already knew about, most of that just sounds like the writer stating their own interpretation of things and calling it facts or her, frankly, campaigning and trying to win. Not the nicest thing ever but nothing mind blowing.
edited 2nd Mar '16 10:23:17 AM by LSBK
The writer didn't put the words in her mouth, every quote is fact-checked and sourced.
"Trying to win" like that is bad enough and quite frankly, it speaks for itself.
To beat a dead horse, although Clinton's supporters were awful during the 2008 elections (one of several reasons why the DNC needs to draw DWS), Sanders is basically saying the same thing as Clinton was in that article.
Sanders frequently talks about how terrible it is that the Democratic Party has lost white, working class voters and he wants to win them back by focusing on economic issues (which I interpret to mean not talking about racial and social issues).
I tend to call B.S. on this because while I'm sure "The Big Banks" (TM) are bad, the problems associated with them are pretty attenuated from things like racial inequality, police brutality, gay rights, women's rights, granting amnesty to illegal immigrants, etc.
He did, although Clinton was also involved in civil rights advocacy when younger
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Speaking for myself (not African American, but Jewish), I'd guess it's because of a combination of "knowing" the Clintons and not knowing Sanders. And speaking personally, the fact that Sanders talks about the tragedy of the Democratic party losing white voters and prioritizes economic issues over racial ones seems like a good reason not to vote for him if you aren't white (it's why I'm not going to vote for him).
edited 2nd Mar '16 10:38:36 AM by Hodor2
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No they didn't put words in her mouth but they did choice to interpret some innocuous statements as "Yes, he's secretly an evil Muslim, vote for me." Which is fine for them, just don't treat it as a definite thing.
As I think I need to clear something up, I don't have a particular problem with you preferring Sanders over Clinton, I actually voted for him in the primary yesterday. But just because you prefer one doesn't mean you have to paint the other as evil-incarnate. I understand you have legit concerns but a lot of what you say comes off as really hyperbolic and unhelpful.
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I wonder about that too. It mostly seems to be older black people from where I am.
edited 2nd Mar '16 10:38:22 AM by LSBK
Do you seriously think those statements are "innocuous"? Really?
You've already asked me that. I've already answered it.
The assumption that campaign reform and fucking income inequality are white-centric is pretty damn racist in itself, you know.
I wouldn't take it to mean that at all. Overall, the Democratic Party has decided to focus on racial and social issues as a means of motivating the base, whether stirring up fear of the Republican actions on those issues or otherwise, and has also been using that as a crutch to avoid having to actually talk about, explain, or otherwise put forth effort on the economic issues. Sanders simply puts considerable value on both rather than putting all his eggs in the racial-and-social-issues basket.
The message isn't so much that big banks alone are bad, but that it's bad that wealth overall is concentrated to such a small percentage of people, whether due to banks or otherwise. And they're not exactly attenuated from racial and social issues when dog-whistle attitudes on racial and social issues are what are used as wedges to avoid having to do anything about economic inequality and other maldistribution of resources. "You may be poor as hell, but at least you're not [group x]!" or "You may be poor as hell, but we need to overlook the economic views of our candidate this time (again) to prevent the other Party from doing [doomful thing y on issue x]!" and so on and so forth.
GM: AGOG S4 & F/WC RP; Co-GM: TABA, SOTR, UUA RP; Sub-GM: TTS RP. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire.Sanders: African-Americans lost half their wealth because of Wall Street collapse
Sanders railed against Wall Street in his response to a question about race relations in the Feb. 11 Democratic debate in Milwaukee, Wis.
"Turns out that the African-American community and Latino community were hit especially hard," Sanders said. "As I understand it, the African-American community lost half of their wealth as a result of the Wall Street collapse."
That claim stood out to us. Is it true that black wealth was slashed so dramatically as a result of the financial crisis?
Sanders understood correctly. His campaign referred us to a 2013 report from the National Association of Real Estate Brokers.
"According to the report, African-Americans have lost over half of their wealth since the beginning of the recession through falling homeownership rates and loss of jobs," it reads.
Voter turnout in the Super Tuesday states is not looking good for Democrats:
- Oklahoma: Democrats
25%, Republicans
35%
- Tennessee: Democrats
41%, Republicans
50%
- Texas: Democrats
52%, Republicans
74%
- Vermont: Democrats
16%, Republicans
42%
- Virgina: Democrats
21%, Republicans
107%
https://twitter.com/regwilliams_set/status/705093010845925376
edited 2nd Mar '16 11:11:19 AM by SolipsistOwl
The jig is up, the news is out, they finally found him ♪
I wonder how fast his Super PA Cs vanish into the ether to a country that conveniently doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S.

That doesn't exactly equal a media machine as people typically think of it.
Also, what was the story behind that, I'm pretty sure that was some of her supporters who started the whole "secret Muslim"thing and not her campaign itself. Anyone remember exactly how that went?
edited 2nd Mar '16 10:08:35 AM by LSBK