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#113726: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:14:59 PM

A reminder that the "Berniebro" is a cheap repaint of a line of attack from 2008.

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edited 29th Feb '16 2:17:16 PM by darksidevoid

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#113727: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:37:34 PM

I can't figure out how to fix them. There doesn't seem to be anything different to my URL tags compared to prior posts. ??

EDIT: The raw links are fine in edit mode, but for some reason post with a dash and a space.

edited 29th Feb '16 2:40:54 PM by SolipsistOwl

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#113728: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:39:28 PM

Not sure what would cause them to link with extra hyphens and spaces, then. I recall there used to be a problem with links that were too long doing that sort of thing here, but I thought that was fixed.

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#113729: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:40:38 PM

No it's not fixed.

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#113730: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:42:47 PM

North Korea's ability to drop a nuke on South Korea is questionable, it certainly can't hit the US itself.

As for the Dem-Rep comparison, I could see an argument for the Dems being in a 2008 spot, an establishment candidate looks to win it but there's enough noise from the fringes that they're going to have to compromise. Here's the thing, the Republicans lost in 2008 with their establishment candidate, that's part of how the Tea Party came about, if the Dems win with Clinton all but a tiny minority will shut up and roll with it, the Dems would have to nominate Clinton and then loose for a Tea Party style wing to properly emerge.

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#113731: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:44:17 PM

Nvmd.

edited 29th Feb '16 2:44:44 PM by DrDougsh

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#113732: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:47:03 PM

A reminder that the "Berniebro" is a cheap repaint of a line of attack from 2008

Oh please. Look at any Reddit thread about Clinton. Hell, go on the Guardian's comments thread whenever Sanders is concerned. It's very real.

If you want evidence in the wild, try this.

One of my experiences that I think I won’t forget for a long time is a call that I got from the Sanders campaign. This person that called asked me was I voting for Sen. Sanders. I said no. I was voting for Secretary Clinton. The phone went silent for a little bit,” Scott recounted. “You could hear this person struggling to come up with what they’re going to say next. … They call that a real pregnant pause, nine months’ worth of pregnant pause. And he finally came back and he says to me, ‘You know, Senator Sanders is for welfare.'

edited 29th Feb '16 2:48:34 PM by Achaemenid

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#113733: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:47:09 PM

[up][up]That's kind of plan B for a lot of Sanders supporters: if we lose, lose big—and to trump, so that in 2020 we can get President Keith Ellison and a progressive supermajority.

[up]I don't understand how an ineffective phonebanker is indicative of the alleged misogyny of "Bernie Bros."

edited 29th Feb '16 2:49:57 PM by SolipsistOwl

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#113734: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:49:34 PM

[up]

Accelerationism was a fucking stupid idea when European Marxists came up with it in the 19th century and it's a really fucking stupid idea when Sanderistas do it. It's brilliant if you're white and middle-class and can ride out the storm, but see how Hispanic, Black, and poor America look after four years of Trump.

I don't understand how an ineffective phonebanker is indicative of the alleged misogyny of "Bernie Bros."

It's indicative of how out of touch some of Sanders supporters' are. It's also racist.

edited 29th Feb '16 2:57:03 PM by Achaemenid

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113735: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:50:03 PM

@ Those who commented: Yeah, I have GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). Being in a perpetual existential crisis sucks, but my point still stands: people quibble over Clinton and Sanders when they need to worry about what would happen if a Republican was elected.

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#113736: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:50:28 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, that doesn't exactly equate to Bernie Bros. I'm not saying they don't exist, but a long period of silence doesn't necessarily mean "misogynist prick".

[up] I'm quite happy worrying about both.

edited 29th Feb '16 2:51:42 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#113737: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:52:41 PM

[up]

The fact that, when trying to convince a black voter to switch allegiance, the first thing one of Bernie's phonebankers could come up with was 'he'll give you more welfare', is a pretty strong indicator of 'racist prick'.

The full quote:

"I lost it. So you’re going to assume either from my voice or from my selection that the most important thing that Sen. Sanders is going to be working on that would interest me is more welfare?” Scott said. “I went on to read him the riot act. Listen, I’m not only a college graduate; I’ve got a masters. My daughter is a college graduate. I have never had one ounce of welfare before. I ain’t never lived in public housing. None of those things.”

edited 29th Feb '16 2:54:49 PM by Achaemenid

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#113738: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:53:55 PM

Oh, okay. Didn't click on the link. tongue

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#113739: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:01:23 PM

Honestly, that person reads more offended by the insinuation that they might ever need welfare.

Everyone should be offered welfare, regardless of race and with few conditions. It's a great platform for Sanders and a wonderful way to phonebank. Many middle-class, poor, and old people (especially minorities) care about welfare, social security and the minimum wage. Those are economic policies proven to both benefit people of all races, but especially minorities.

edited 29th Feb '16 3:04:16 PM by SolipsistOwl

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#113740: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:08:52 PM

It's understandable that insinuation that they might need welfare because they're black would cause offense on some level.

While it is true that many black people might be faced with situations of poverty and difficulties with social mobility, it's not exactly something to say in good taste to a person just because they're black without you knowing anything else about them.

edited 29th Feb '16 3:09:46 PM by wehrmacht

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#113742: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:16:06 PM

Not sure if this had been posted already, but...

"Donald Trump blames ‘bad earpiece’ for refusal to denounce David Duke and the KKK".

edited 29th Feb '16 3:16:16 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#113743: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:17:56 PM

"Black people would rather live on the government's dime than get a job" has been a major, incredibly racist argument against welfare for years. The insinuation that someone needs welfare because they're black speaks to a long, offensive history of politicians assuming that black folks are all worthless layabouts.

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#113744: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:20:27 PM

[up]Clinton promised his welfare reform would "end" such attacks on the poor and minorities, but here we are twenty years later and a Congress that still wants to cut food stamps.

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#113745: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:21:14 PM

Someone needs to draw trump putting his head in the ground like an ostrich while KKK members are powerwalking right next to him.

I guess finding bullshit excuses for the stupid shit they say is to be expected from even these unapologetically horrible people, because I was fetching a news article about a brazilian politician doing pretty much the same thing trump is doing now for another thread.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113746: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:25:45 PM

The article that someone posted a page or so back (this one) does a lot to make me feel better about supporting Clinton, but not much to make me feel better about how she's most likely doomed to fail.

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#113747: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:34:52 PM

[up]Clinton promised his welfare reform would "end" such attacks on the poor and minorities, but here we are twenty years later and a Congress that still wants to cut food stamps.

It's cool, man. It's okay to admit a Sanders supporter was racist.

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#113748: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:38:59 PM

Considering a great deal of them are upper middle class white kids I'd say yeah, plenty of Sanders supporters are racists.

Oh really when?
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113749: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:41:57 PM

[up]Millennials are the least racist American demographic, with white Millennials the least racist overall.

Since the majority of Sanders supporters are Millennial, and white, I would argue that many of them aren't that racist. At least no more than Clinton's supporters, who are primarily over the age of 55 and thus far more likely to hold racialist biases.

Hillary Clinton ‘secret’ email count doubles as latest batch is released

The State Department on Monday deemed 23 more of former Secretary Hillary Clinton’s emails “secret,” bringing to 45 the total number of messages given the second-highest level of classification the government can bestow.

Another 235 messages released Monday are deemed to have “confidential” information, which is the lower level of classification, meaning more than 2,000 of the 30,322 messages released from Mrs. Clinton’s secret account contained some information the government now deems too dangerous to release publicly.

The total classification rate is 6.8 percent — or about one out of every 14 messages she sent.

edited 29th Feb '16 3:45:51 PM by SolipsistOwl

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#113750: Feb 29th 2016 at 3:44:01 PM

Oh please. Look at any Reddit thread about Clinton. Hell, go on the Guardian's comments thread whenever Sanders is concerned. It's very real.
That some people who fit the constructed traits of a "Berniebro" exist and post on the internet does not substantiate the actual narrative implicit in the term, which says, in effect, that a majority of the men supporting Sanders are doing so because they are sexists, and so on and so forth. There is a whole bevy of negative assumptions packed into the term. Furthermore, that people exist who fit the traits does not, in any way, negate the fact that the "Berniebro" narrative is a cheap repaint of the 2008 "Obama Boy" narrative, conceived of and propagated by the same individual media figures.

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