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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Also Sanders is now a Dem I believe, as he's looking to run under the Dem ticket. Plus it's not like DNC members can't back Sanders, 12 DNC super delegates are backing Bernie in the primary.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranWhy would we expect the superdelegates to act in any other way? Sanders is not a longtime member of the Democratic Party. He is an independent seeking the Democrat nomination, after years of being an independent senator. His only real political connection to them is that he is ideologically close to the left of the Democrats and he caucuses with them in the Senate.
The superdelegates have absolutely no reason to support him, and yet people act like it is some grand conspiracy when they don't.
Schild und Schwert der ParteiLike I've said, the parties' voters are shifting towards more extreme, ideological viewpoints and are willing to tear systems down from the inside to get their way. The only thing keeping the Sanders supporters from going third-party is the threat of the Republicans winning, and the Republicans look to be on the verge of collapse.
edited 28th Feb '16 10:25:52 AM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food BadlyThe DWS/Clinton led DNC wants to put all the power of the Dem Party in the presidency, and rot the Legislative and State House arm of the party, to keep potential rivals to the Clinton and her camp from emerging and challenging the Neo Lib status quo.
It's not conspiracy, just the current power brokers of the party really REALLY don't want the Neo Liberal party to end.
edited 28th Feb '16 10:51:46 AM by PotatoesRock
I'm not talking about the nomination. This is more than just Sanders vs Clinton. This is the future of the party itself.The DNC has lost any ground that they might have gained under Obama's revolutionary grassroots effort. They've abandoned their traditional demographics and are just banking on their nominee winning the White House.
Clinton only seems to win states that so far have seen much larger turnout from Republicans and will ultimately go Republican in the general election. The DNC has failed at the state level.
They've even recently diverted funds intended for state-level Democratic candidates into Clinton's presidential campaign fund.
edited 28th Feb '16 11:08:20 AM by SolipsistOwl
In a sense, is that really a bad thing? The Republican party has regressed into nothing, but baseline Nazis, serving as ultimate extensions of their already oppressive, obsolete policies. The Democrat party is deeply rooted in lip service corruption of Corporate Right, and is actively fighting to avoid actually getting on the left again. Are either of them that worth keeping?
edited 28th Feb '16 11:21:15 AM by Luminosity
Outside billionaires fuel joint effort between Clinton, Alaska Democrats
In the same report, the Alaska Democratic Party said it transferred an equal amount of money, $43,500, to the Democratic National Committee — a move that, while legal, helps to effectively “obliterate” federal limits on donations to the national committee, according to one campaign finance expert.
“It just becomes a way to give more to the DNC to support the Clinton campaign,” said Paul S. Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, which advocates for campaign finance reform. “It’s effectively Hillary Clinton’s team soliciting Hillary Clinton’s supporters for much bigger checks than they can give to the campaign — knowing that every penny could be spent on the Clinton campaign.”
Clinton donors use Maine Democrats to skirt campaign cash limits
While individual contributions to the state and national parties are capped, transfers between state and national committees are unlimited.
The movement of money from a joint fundraising committee through state parties and to the national party committee has been criticized by campaign finance reformers as a way to get around campaign contribution limits.
edited 28th Feb '16 11:28:03 AM by SolipsistOwl
The Hot Coco party.
Dude...if I ever start a political party, I should totally call it that.
Leviticus 19:34I find it funny how I hear people talk about "Boss Schultz" and how she's corrupt and terrible when she looks like someone's dental hygienist :P
At any rate, I'm still worried about the world ending, but apparently it'll happen regardless of whether a Republican wins or not.
edited 28th Feb '16 12:10:05 PM by ILoveDogs
If the Dems take the White House and the Senate this year, then you guys should have dodged the worst of it. You'll be able to swing the balance of the Supreme Court towards you (and prevent civil rights from being dialed back decades) and the GOP, even if it doesn't split in half formally, will be increasingly pressed by demographic shifts. Now that doesn't address the issues at the state level but take what you can get.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

When you add it all up, from the DNC's attempt to coronate Clinton, to the superdelegates, to the excommunication of dissenters, it lends a lot of weight to Sanders' claim to be representing a revolution not just in terms of politics but in terms of ethics.
edited 28th Feb '16 9:07:33 AM by Fighteer
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