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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113376: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:08:53 PM

lol @ state of the union fax thing

I am going to send a fax to the white house for the next election giving a suggestion to the president's speech too, and that will forever label them as being in my pocket

I will finally be important

Point being: ANYONE CAN FAX THE WHITE HOUSE and the only thing that should outrage you about that is that PEOPLE ARE STILL USING FAXES IN 2016

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113377: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:10:48 PM

Did you not read the article? This was in '96, not '16. And Clinton used pretty much all of the executive's suggestions in his actual speech.

Birmingham, Alabama, raised the city's minimum wage to $10.10 an hour on Tuesday. Two days later, the state took it away.

Alabama passed a bill Thursday, largely along party lines, that bars cities and counties from raising the minimum wage or requiring employers to provide leave or other benefits. Because the law applies retroactively, it wipes out Birmingham's raise.

Republican legislative leaders fast-tracked the bill in order to pass it before Birmingham's raise was set to take effect March 1. The GOP enjoys super-majorities in both houses. Within an hour or so of the bill's passage, Gov. Robert Bentley, a Republican, announced he had signed it.

Birmingham Raises Minimum Wage and Alabama Takes it Away

edited 26th Feb '16 3:11:59 PM by SolipsistOwl

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#113378: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:11:57 PM

[up]And we care why...?

Seriously, the "Hillary is the anti-Christ" schtick is getting old. You aren't going to vote for her. We get that. But could you possibly talk about something else?

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113379: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:13:13 PM

[up]Because it's interesting?

This is an election year in a politics thread. I am a registered Democrat with intention of voting for a Democratic candidate. There are only two Democratic candidates. What else should I talk about?

I have also posted about many other, non-Clinton or Sanders related topics. See just above your comment, for one.

edited 26th Feb '16 3:15:50 PM by SolipsistOwl

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113380: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:16:55 PM

Yes. I read the article. The one that followed with a link to Breitbart.

Did YOU read this?

But American economic strength and dynamism – while enormously beneficial to most of our fellow citizens – has also required painful adjustments. The flexibility of our work force, its ability to adapt to the accelerating pace of technological and competitive changes, is a great strength. But it also means less economic security for many and a more unsettled work environment. We cannot ignore this. Job insecurity and wage stagnation are problems for large numbers of our fellow citizens. Our goal is to broaden the benefits of prosperity and to ensure that those who do not immediately benefit from our nation’s growth and prosperity do not suffer the insecurity of the collapse of their incomes or of their health care and are assisted to obtain the tools to contribute to the country’s economy.

This is the Hormats suggestion.

And here is the State union adress

Today, technology doesn’t just replace jobs on the assembly line, but any job where work can be automated. Companies in a global economy can locate anywhere, and they face tougher competition. As a result, workers have less leverage for a raise. Companies have less loyalty to their communities. And more and more wealth and income is concentrated at the very top.

By Barack Obama in 2016.

If you actually read them you will notice they are similar still.

This is because in politics you speak in broad brushes and loads of fancy empty words to convey a simple meaning that can remain stagnant. Clinton didnt even use the same words or same ideas, just dealt with the same subject.

Here is the Goerge Bush Senior one

But just as our efforts will bring economic growth now and in the future, they must also be matched by long-term investments for the next American century. That requires a forward-looking plan of action, and that's exactly what we will be sending to the Congress. We've prepared a detailed series of proposals that include: a budget that promotes investment in America's future — in children, education, infrastructure, space, and high technology; legislation to achieve excellence in education, building on the partnership forged with the 50 Governors at the education summit, enabling parents to choose their children's schools and helping to make America number one in math and science; a blueprint for a new national highway system, a critical investment in our transportation infrastructure; a research and development agenda that includes record levels of Federal investment, and a permanent tax credit to strengthen private R&D and to create jobs; a comprehensive national energy strategy that calls for energy conservation and efficiency, increased development, and greater use of alternative fuels; a banking reform plan to bring America's financial system into the 21st century so that our banks remain safe and secure and can continue to make job-creating loans for our factories, our businesses, and home buyers.

Buzzwords. Political talk. Empty words for a simple idea that repeats over the ages.

Welcome to politics.

edited 26th Feb '16 3:17:30 PM by Aszur

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113381: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:19:22 PM

I don't link articles I haven't read and sourced.

I believe special interests should not have direct access to the president or White House. I'm sorry you disagree.

edited 26th Feb '16 3:21:43 PM by SolipsistOwl

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113382: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:23:16 PM

Here is my source.

All the goddamn state of the union addresses

Dude, you can send an email to Barack Obama telling him exactly that. So can the CEO of Monsanto, a serial murderer rapist, or a local pinneaple grower, or a local concerned mom. Everyone can.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113383: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:24:07 PM

I never questioned your source??

Any thoughts on the Clinton campaign being investigated by the attorney general for electoral/voter fraud in Nevada, and the Sanders campaign for the same in New Hampshire?

edited 26th Feb '16 3:24:33 PM by SolipsistOwl

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113384: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:28:16 PM

Political noise. Fraud in the U.S is a non issue.

Statistically, it is more likely that fraud is investigated, than found

It is business as usual: people lose, and they cast a huge stink about it. The question answers itself if reversed: How often have you heard elections where someone was NOT investigated for fraud?

It is infinitesimal, just how frequent fraud happens

edited 26th Feb '16 3:30:28 PM by Aszur

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#113385: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:29:01 PM

[up][up]Cockups happen and the level of power that campaigns have when it comes to the voting is weird.

[up] Your link talks only about voter impersonation (or at least the title does), I don't belive investigations are over that, but fraud via other stuff.

edited 26th Feb '16 3:30:33 PM by Silasw

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113386: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:30:25 PM

Of course it's a non-issue. I still love that it's being *made* into an issue through sting operations. It's pretty cool to see official attorney general documents for investigations into both campaigns.

There's supposed to be some South Carolina videos coming out soon. Not sure for which campaign, or what they did.

Australians say they were paid by Labor Party to work for Bernie Sanders

edited 26th Feb '16 3:33:37 PM by SolipsistOwl

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113387: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:36:38 PM

Aussies right now:

YES. AND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT IF NOT FOR YOU MEDDLING KIDS AND YOUR DAMN DOG!

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113388: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:52:52 PM

Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign challenged Democratic rival Hillary Clinton to take a stronger stance against trade deals such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Ahead of Saturday’s South Carolina primary and an upcoming contest in manufacturing heavy Ohio, the Sanders' campaign touted the senator's consistent policy record opposing trade agreements, including the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which was passed in 1994 under former President Clinton.

“If Secretary Clinton really wanted to stop the loss of manufacturing jobs in Ohio she should have joined Sen. Sanders in opposing the North American Free Trade Agreement and permanent normal trade relations with China,” said Warren Gunnels, Sanders’ policy director, in a press release.

Sanders' campaign challenges Clinton on trade

A long-simmering dispute between law enforcement and Silicon Valley over encrypted phones gained national prominence last week when a federal judge ordered Apple Inc. to help the FBI break into an iPhone 5c as part of the investigation into the San Bernardino terror attacks.

But police in California and other states have complained for many months that data encryption creates a major investigative hurdle in the hunt for killers, human traffickers, child pornographers and other offenders. Some fear criminals are intentionally using devices that run on newer operating systems because they know police can’t access them, despite having search warrants signed by judges.

The federal court battle is being watched closely by police officials around the country who hope a finding in favor of the government could serve as a landmark victory that will set a precedent allowing broader law enforcement access to encrypted data.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department has as many as 150 phones in evidence lockers that investigators can’t crack, Cahhal said. The LAPD has about 300, a captain said. In Sacramento, sheriff’s officials have nearly 90.

The federal government is fighting Apple for something the police want too

MABfan11 from Remnant Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#113389: Feb 26th 2016 at 3:59:21 PM

here's the thing, most of the people on this thread will vote for Sanders (those that live in the US anyways), and while many here isn't particularly fond of Clinton, they still see her as MILES better than the republicans (which isn't that hard)

edited 26th Feb '16 3:59:50 PM by MABfan11

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#113390: Feb 26th 2016 at 4:03:46 PM

The opinion that seems to be gaining traction from my look in this thread is that Sanders has good ideas and he's being very open about racial and economic issues in America but his actual economic plan is not viable.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#113391: Feb 26th 2016 at 4:22:11 PM

Although one can still debate the viability of Sanders's economic plans or whether their viability actually matters.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#113392: Feb 26th 2016 at 4:25:49 PM

I'd argue his foreign policy isn't viable either, going to the left of Obama. I get that its ideologically valid, but it isn't practical.

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113393: Feb 26th 2016 at 4:32:11 PM

The State Department has produced 1,600 pages of new documents related to the terrorist attacks in Benghazi in 2012, according to the House committee investigating the attacks.

According to the House Select Committee on Benghazi, the State Department said in January that it had recently discovered the documents. The committee did not release additional details about the documents, but they pertained to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Libya.

Benghazi committee receives new documents as more Clinton emails are released

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
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#113395: Feb 26th 2016 at 5:49:36 PM

[up] No, because he supports Sanders. Fox hates those evil commies.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#113396: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:17:32 PM

Yeah but they hate Clinton more. They do allow token pundits.

edited 26th Feb '16 6:17:59 PM by FFShinra

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#113397: Feb 26th 2016 at 7:13:22 PM

Really, you are so dedicated to spouting anti-Clinton sound bites that you use Benghazi? A scandal that the RNC/GOP Senators have outright admitted was fabricated in order to undermine her as a candidate?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#113398: Feb 26th 2016 at 8:33:28 PM

Let's be fair. He's not "using" anything, he's just passing info along without actually filtering it through any critical thinking.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#113399: Feb 26th 2016 at 8:39:30 PM

Well, whatever his reasoning or motivation, this hate-on he's got for Hillary is really getting tiresome. He's made his point, already. There's no need to beat us over the head with it.

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