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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#113326: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:02:36 AM

Woooow Christie. Woooow. I mean I know ya hate Rubio but that doesn't mean you nominate Trump of all people. Could have just kept quiet.

That said, I did recall articles saying the two were actually personal friends so I guess I can't be too shocked.

EDIT- And now we know for whom Christie was playing hitman for in his final debate.

edited 26th Feb '16 10:35:29 AM by FFShinra

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#113327: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:39:39 AM

[up]Just my thoughts, he knew was out. I always assumed he was working for Bush or even Kasich though. But now things make sense, at least in this year of madness.

So, when we can classify the Moderate Republican as Extinct in the Wild, away from Critically Endangered?

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#113328: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:43:25 AM

Yep.

At least, among those bothering to run. There are still moderate republicans around, both in the electorate and in office. I know a few of the former. They will either vote Hilary or stay home. They don't know which as of yet.

edited 26th Feb '16 10:45:52 AM by FFShinra

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#113329: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:56:37 AM

With the regularity of the seasons:

I believe the usual procedure is for Sanders supporters to find some tenuous connection of the authors' to Hillary Clinton or the ebil DNC, and thus dismiss the whole report as fabricated.

And, surprise surprise:

Romer was listed as an adviser to the Clinton campaign just last year

It's just laughable at this point. If you'd read the report she (and her husband) wrote, you'd note that she actually discloses that.

edited 26th Feb '16 10:58:18 AM by Achaemenid

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#113330: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:58:43 AM

You should have seen if anyone was foolish enough to take a bet on it.

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#113331: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:01:18 AM

Actually about ethics in g....FUCK.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113332: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:07:55 AM

Achaemenid: It's just laughable at this point. If you'd read the report she (and her husband) wrote, you'd note that she actually discloses that.
I was talking about the media, which has cited Romer (and other anti-Sanders economists) in several articles without mentioning her ties to Clinton, and featured Clinton-hired pundits on the media without mentioning it.

Conservative donors have engaged a major GOP consulting firm in Florida to research the feasibility of mounting a late, independent run for president amid growing fears that Donald Trump could win the Republican nomination.

A memo prepared for the group zeroes in on ballot access as a looming obstacle for any independent candidate, along with actually identifying a viable, widely known contender and coalescing financial support for that person. The two states with the earliest deadlines for independent candidates, Texas and North Carolina, also have some of the highest hurdles for independents to get on the ballot, according to the research.

“All this research has to happen before March 16, when inevitably Trump is the nominee, so that we have a plan in place," a source familiar with the discussions said. March 16 is the day after the GOP primary in Florida, a winner-take-all contest that Marco Rubio supporters have identified as a must-win to stop Trump's early momentum.

Donors ask GOP consulting firm to research independent presidential bid

edited 26th Feb '16 11:15:42 AM by SolipsistOwl

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#113333: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:09:16 AM

[up] Wow. That is some sexy, scary stuff. Do they not understand that a third-party bid would critically undermine both the Republican candidate and their own?

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#113334: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:12:18 AM

I dunno, torching the current Republican party and running off on their own might be the best long term thing to do for what moderates and establishment members are left.

Oh really when?
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113335: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:12:46 AM

The Democratic donor establishment plans to run Bloomberg in case Sanders wins the nomination over Clinton, so if it's Sanders/Trump we'll see a historic realignment of both parties.

We're long overdue for a parliamentary system over a congress.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:18:19 AM by SolipsistOwl

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#113336: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:18:25 AM

I'm watching Rubio's clash with Trump in the debate. It's kinda hilarious how both of them talk over the other without ever being reined in by the moderators. It becomes essentially a shouting match of Rubio slinging all the nastiest dirt he can at Trump, and Trump trying to drown his voice in retaliation.

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#113337: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:19:24 AM

[up][up] Bloomberg is an unmitigated ass. That would have catastrophic consequences for our political system... maybe even revolutionary? But we can't have a parliamentary system without a Constitutional amendment.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:19:46 AM by Fighteer

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#113338: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:22:33 AM

The GOP having to run its own third party candidate, then the inmates truly will have taken over the asylum.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:24:11 AM by Silasw

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#113339: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:24:30 AM

Remind me: We have been talking at length over Sanders' economic plan. What about Clinton's?

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#113340: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:24:36 AM

If Trump and Sanders each wins their respective primary and the establishment of each party fractures off to back an independent candidate, we might have a four-way horse race. That would be absolutely insane.

[up] Clinton is promising to take Obama's work and keep it going. Her stump speech encompasses the following basic actions:

  • Strengthen and expand Obamacare.
  • Raise the national minimum wage (everyone is waving around the magic $15 number).
  • Block the TPP (there is some question as to whether she'd actually do it, or is just blowing smoke, and there's no mention of TTIP, its Atlantic counterpart).
  • Overturn Citizens' United (everyone wants that, it seems).
  • Teach Wall Street how to play nicely with everyone.

I'm trying to think of specifics and coming up dry; maybe someone with more time can look up the details.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:27:16 AM by Fighteer

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#113342: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:25:20 AM

It would be nuts. I don't know what would happen.

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113343: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:25:37 AM

If not a parliamentary system, instant runoff elections would do a lot to redefine American politics.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:25:48 AM by SolipsistOwl

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113344: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:29:16 AM

[up][up] A fifty/fifty shot of either things continuing relatively normally, or the literal end of the fucking world.

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#113345: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:30:10 AM

A four way race would likely mean it going to the House, who would then be split between the Dems, establishment Republicans and the Tea Party Republicans, the vote would come down to if the Republicans could unify or if the establishment Dems and establishment Republicans could pick a unity candidate.

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#113346: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:32:58 AM

When was the last time we had a four-way presidential election here? I know it's happened before.

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#113347: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:35:21 AM

We've had four-way elections plenty of times, but there has not been an election since the Whigs split up where a third candidate won enough electoral votes to raise any concern about stopping one from having a majority.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#113348: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:36:04 AM

[up][up] 1912, maybe? You had incumbent Republican President Taft, Democratic challenger Woodrow Wilson, ex-President Teddy Roosevelt running as a third party progressive candidate, and Eugene Debbs as a socialist challenger.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113349: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:37:28 AM

There was 1824, too. Jackson, Adams, Clay and Crawford.

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113350: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:38:03 AM

[up][up]And that race went to Wilson, who infamously re-segregated the White House and all government offices despite integration since the Civil War.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:38:39 AM by SolipsistOwl


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