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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#113176: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:05:41 PM

I think the China "warning" is more about "for the love of all that's holy don't vote in the guy who's going to torpedo all diplomatic relations do you have any idea how long it took to build what little we've got here?"

I mean seriously, Trump would likely be quite hostile to China. As much as he could, because apparently he thinks that's good politics.

Edit: The Leland Yee thing was reported a while ago, this is just the richly deserved pay off.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:06:25 PM by AceofSpades

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#113177: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:06:31 PM

@Bat. We mock you over your lack of relevance precisely because you were once so powerful and relevant. It's also a way to cover up our fear of one day being just as irrelevant as the mother county.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#113178: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:08:19 PM

You know, I think some of you worry too much about "relevance" as regards the worth and love of your country.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113179: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:10:25 PM

What a weird dude.

Wasnt he also a guy who was all on about violent videogames and stuff? At least, he admitted it though.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#113180: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:10:36 PM

Leland Yee I mostly remember for his "no violent video games for minors" law that was ditched by the Supreme Court (with Antonin Scalia writing the majority opinion, which stated that freedom of speech includes video games).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#113181: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:12:23 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] For the love of god don't remind me about Trump's opposition to China, as it actually gives me some sort of feeling in support of the man. Our elites have treasonously sold the nation to China to the point where they get a say in how we elect our Presidents.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:12:38 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#113182: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:14:46 PM

Jack, no

Oh really when?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113183: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:15:46 PM

I am curious then. What does the British Parliament discussing the possibility of banning a U.S candidate mean?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#113184: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:16:40 PM

[up][up]I'm not voting for the man, his policies on everything else are appalling. But we need to get rid of this idea that closer relations with China are a good thing, especially when they involve selling our allies, our economy, and in the future our democracy, down the river.

Edit: Hell Trump is one of those elites that sold the nation to China. At least Clinton called them on their human rights record, and Sanders wants to take away their golden egg, trade relations with the US.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:17:38 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#113185: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:17:21 PM

Meanwhile...in Jacks nightmares.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:18:29 PM by AngelusNox

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#113186: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:18:02 PM

[up][up]I mean no, the idea that China has any sort of power over the West is ridiculous.

Jack they exist to make cheap shit for us. Their economy is built around serving the West. They will die overnight if we let them.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:18:24 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#113187: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:18:46 PM

[up][up] The sad thing is that at one point during summer camp my tent mate told me that I had been taking in my sleep. He said it was "something about China." For what it's worth I will never shoot anyone in the nutstongue

edited 25th Feb '16 1:18:55 PM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#113188: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:19:05 PM

Jack, you're getting pointlessly histrionic again. China is not a danger to us; they don't want to be. They like things as they are with us. It's part of why they don't want us to interfere in local disputes, even though we probably are going to anyway because Japan is our ally.

It's really hard to take you seriously when every post you make about China is about how you're afraid they're gonna hurt us.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:20:10 PM by AceofSpades

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#113189: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:20:49 PM

[up] Now, but in the future they will be. They know their system is an anomaly, and in order to garnet their security, they will work to undermine and bring down Democracy around the world. Countries always try to imitate the most powerful nation, and in the future that nation will be China.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113190: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:22:16 PM

China's kinda busy trying to not blow itself up to try and blow others up, really.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#113191: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:24:08 PM

I'm not even gonna bother.

Jack, China is dying. Investors are leaving, the Russians are rubbing their hands together, we no longer source to them.

If you can't believe that then it's your problem.

Oh really when?
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#113192: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:24:37 PM

Should I be worried about the electability of the Dem candidates? Clinton seems to be quite unpopular and Sanders would be very easy to run a scare campaign against.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#113193: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:24:51 PM

[up][up][up][up] I personally dislike when countries always try to imitate the most powerful nation, as it makes me feel like they are losing their identities and their own cultures.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:25:07 PM by Bat178

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113194: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:29:57 PM

Jack, you realize that any claims that any country is "trying to bring down democracy around the world" makes them sound like GI Joe villains, yeah?

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#113195: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:30:12 PM

[up][up] They do it in their own way, like how most countries are democracies because the British and then US hegemonies made it "hip" to be a democracy. Of course most follow the British model, because our system only works for us, and even then barely.

[up] The CCP once sold the organs of religious dissenters on the black market. They passed GI Joe villain status a long time ago.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:31:05 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113196: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:30:35 PM

I personally dislike when countries always try to imitate the most powerful nation, as it makes me feel like they are losing their identities and their own cultures.

Funny thing: doing that whole "imitation" thing is natural, and makes life better. Whereas isolation and uniqueness breaks empires, and regresses nations, as anthropological studies on Papua New Guinea islands can attest to. There, isolated communities regressed and lost knowledge and those with better access to their neighbors were more fruitful.

Why be afraid of'em?

Now, if they were zombie commie chinamen, with guns in space, I would be afraid, but this is not the case.

The CCP once sold the organs of religious dissenters on the black market. They passed GI Joe villain status a long time ago

And the U.S thaught people how to torture dissenters and paid the governments for learning this so maybe the "but they are teh bad guys!" is a pretty silly argument

(Skip to like minute 4)

Did I just hear....JOINING CHAOS?!?!?!? UH OOOOOHHH.

edited 25th Feb '16 1:41:55 PM by Aszur

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#113197: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:43:30 PM

Bill Clinton has been defending his welfare reform while acting as surrogate for Hillary Clinton, despite making comments in the '90s strongly against certain provisions and consequences of the bill and promising further reform.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#113198: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:47:14 PM

Does the Clinton commentary come as relevant to anything being discussed at the moment or is there some sort of "talk shit about Clinton" quota per page that I am not aware of?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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A procrastination in of itself
#113199: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:48:53 PM

Jack, what existing democracy has China managed to make less democratic? Because from where I'm standing all they've done is prevent a move towards democracy, not create any moves away from it.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#113200: Feb 25th 2016 at 1:49:10 PM

Clinton is part of the topic here. I also think a lot more people here are Sander-ites than Clinton-ites.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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