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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#113051: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:28:52 AM

His decisions as a lawyer seem to be pretty good but his economic decisions as a governor are the usual tax breaks and supply side nonsense.

Oh really when?
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#113052: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:31:38 AM

Yes. And a moderate. Either Obama wants to grand bargain, or he's basically putting pressure on Republicans:

"Here, I'm putting a center-right nominee as the option. And he's from your party. Your move, Repubs."

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If they do it, they face backlash from flip flopping with the base already worse than they do.

If they don't, they face the Dem or Trump option, and the media will eviscerate Republicans for refusing to take a reasonable deal.

edited 24th Feb '16 11:32:11 AM by PotatoesRock

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#113053: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:33:27 AM

Here's a recent article on the guy. To wit:

Sandoval’s problems aren’t exactly unique: John Kasich, a friend of the governor’s, likes to tout his centrist agenda in Ohio. But even compared to Kasich, Sandoval’s record wouldn't be easy to embrace if you're running for president. The tax increases Sandoval signed have since funded a landmark overhaul in public education—likely to become his signature achievement and a bold gamble meant to turn around what is frequently ranked the worst state education system in the country. Yet education is simply the most recent of a long list of Sandoval’s conservative heresies: The abortion rights governor has embraced Obamacare; lauded immigration reform and DREA Mers; fiercely championed renewable energy; and taken lesser known actions on police body cameras, driver’s licenses for undocumented aliens and multiple moves to squelch Republican-led tort reform.

This really makes him sound like a RINO.

edited 24th Feb '16 11:37:31 AM by DrDougsh

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#113054: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:38:59 AM

Doesn't sound like they'd have much problem refusing the guy; they could just call him a RINO.

edited 24th Feb '16 11:39:28 AM by LSBK

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#113055: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:47:42 AM

Except then the theory holds that the media will light the GOP on fire for being the Party of No and Do Nothing, and keep screaming about it until the election.

And Mc Connell will have to consider this or Donald Trump's sister (who's Pro Choice!).

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#113056: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:52:55 AM

The article makes it sound like this guy's pro-choice as well.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#113057: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:58:21 AM

The point is, Obama's offering up a 'reasonable' Swing Vote Justice who won't go for the GOP for everything but should be enough to sate most of the Establishment.

It basically makes him walk out looking reasonable and playing ball, and puts a lot of pressure on Mitch and Pals.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#113058: Feb 24th 2016 at 11:59:27 AM

And then, Barack Obama stabbed the GOP to death with Morton's Fork.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#113059: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:13:34 PM

Trump, Sanders, Chavez and Mao, and idiological Necrophelia How will Sanders make sure we have the welfare state of a European country, and not the abysmal growth and employment rates of most of those countries, hell even the Nordics are beginning to slow if I hear correctly.

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#113060: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:24:23 PM

the mere suggestion that the Republican GOP would even allow the average latino to vote in their caucuses is kinda silly.
They made up 9% of the Republican vote, yet they make up more than 30% of the state population.
they represent that demographic group that also wants the Mexicans kicked out, since they got here legitimately and worked hard while all those illegals are freeloading.
I honestly didn't think Trump cared whether they got here legally or not.
The White House seems to be vetting Brian Sandoval, a GOP governor from Nevada as replacement Justice
Well ... the country could do worse.

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A nice butterfly
#113061: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:26:10 PM

They made up 9% of the Republican vote, yet they make up more than 30% of the state population

Exactly :P Pretty much they are a minority. The minority of a minority.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#113062: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:28:14 PM

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#113063: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:50:55 PM

Does everyone remember the time where Dubya nominated, like, a lottery court judge or something for SCOTUS?

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A nice butterfly
#113064: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:52:28 PM

I am surprised he named a judge-y person. I expected of Dubya to just outright nominate his dog, or something.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#113065: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:53:51 PM

This woman, so it seems to me.

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#113066: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:55:58 PM

Come on! Dubya may have been Stupid Evil, but he wasn't freaking Caligula!

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The Mod with the Migraine
#113067: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:56:35 PM

So Trump is looking for a politial insider as VP, possibly even one of his also-rans.

Who would be Donald Trump's vice president? He still won't say — but the GOP front-runner divulged Wednesday that it would like be an insider in contrast with his outsider status.

"I do want somebody that's political, because I want to get lots of great legislation we all want passed," Trump said Wednesday in a Q&A at Regent University. "We're going to probably choose somebody that's somewhat political."

Trump declined to name any names, saying it's "too early," although he did say some of the other GOP presidential candidates might make the short list. "Some of the people I've dealt with, I do have a lot of respect for," he said the day after he won the Nevada caucuses by a landslide.

Trump said the "main quality" he would seek in a running mate would be someone who could be a "great president" if something were to happen to require that person to step in — but after that, it's about balancing his political outsider status. "I'd want someone who could help me with governing," Trump said. "You want somebody that can help you with legislation, getting it through."

Trump did note that while his background is in business, that doesn't mean he's never dealt with politics. "I'm also very, very political," Trump said. "When you can get zoning on the West Side of Manhattan to build almost 6,000 units of housing and you have to go through New York City politics, believe me, that's tough."

He compared the difficulty of that business deal to that of brokering a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians. "It's about as tough a deal," he said. But the "Art of the Deal" author said that presidential achievement would still trump any he's negotiated as a businessman.

"I view that as the single toughest deal," he said. "We're going to give it a shot ... A lot of good people have gone down trying to give that one a shot."

Meanwhile, the GOP is already rejecting Sandoval even though he hasn't even been nominated.

On Wednesday afternoon, the Washington Post reported that Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, a Republican who previously served on the federal bench, is being "vetted by the White House" as a possible replacement for Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court. The Post's report only cites two anonymous sources, but notably, the White House declined to comment—meaning it declined to dispute the story, too.

If this story is true, what does it all mean, and what is President Obama trying to accomplish? Sandoval, who served on the Nevada district court from 2005 to 2009 following a unanimous Senate confirmation, is what passes for a "moderate" in the GOP these days, if only because he's not an anti-abortion extremist and permitted Medicaid expansion in his state under the Affordable Care Act. But Sandoval also has a record of hostility to organized labor, and there's no reason to believe he'd side with liberals on a wide range of issues that will soon come before the court, like voting rights, campaign finance, or affirmative action. He's not, in other words, an option many Democrats would find appealing.

However, if Obama's intent in floating Sandoval's name was to box Republicans in to looking even more unreasonable than they already have, then it seems his ploy is already working. A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc Connell instantly said his boss won't consider Sandoval, explaining, "The Leader didn't say the Senate would act 'if' it was a certain type of nominee." Presumably, that means Mc Connell wouldn't take action even if Obama nominated the ghost of William Rehnquist.

Sen. John Cornyn, the second highest-ranking Republican in the Senate, likewise immediately told Politico that his position on not allowing a nomination to proceed was unchanged. And anti-tax radical Grover Norquist opined, "Obama might nominate the guy who taxed Burning Man. Ugh." Not Burning Man! (Norquist did notoriously attend the desert festival a couple of years ago.) Freshman Sen. Deb Fischer may have summed it up best, though, when she declared, "It's not about the person."

Well, it is about the person, except in this case, the person is Barack Obama, whom the Senate GOP evidently intends to obstruct clear through January. We'll see if any vulnerable Republican senators up for re-election express any warmth toward Sandoval as a way of wriggling out of their embrace of maximal dysfunction, but no matter what they say, a Sandoval nomination appears to be deader-than-dead on arrival—and the GOP looks all the worse for it.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
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#113068: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:58:07 PM

[up]X4 She wasn't a judge-y type person, she was never a judge and apparently did sod all actual lawyering, being more of a manager.

[up]X2 No he was a pushover, he tried to nominate the person he out in charge of finding someone to nominate, same as when he picked his VP.

edited 24th Feb '16 12:59:17 PM by Silasw

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A nice butterfly
#113069: Feb 24th 2016 at 12:59:14 PM

Oh.

Well.

And he was elected twice, right?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#113070: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:01:52 PM

I just realised, could Bush have dropped out when he did so that he could try and get the VP spot under Trump?

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#113071: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:02:45 PM

He compared the difficulty of that business deal to that of brokering a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians. "It's about as tough a deal,"

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But he pulled it off! That means he will be the one to resolve the Israeli conflict! Probably by forcing Israel to finally and decisively annex the West Bank and drive millions more refugees into the region! I can't wait to see him barter with Bibi! The two most shameless, guiltless, chutzpah-endowed men on the planet!

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edited 24th Feb '16 1:04:53 PM by TheHandle

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#113072: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:09:53 PM

Somehow I doubt Bush has anything other than a simmering contempt for Trump at this point, considering Trump went out of his way to insult Bush's family. Bush wasn't one of the ones attempting to kiss Trump's ass at any point, either. Anemic as it was, he was one of the ones openly opposed to the guy, so I doubt that either of them would play well with each other on at Presidential/VP ticket.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#113073: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:11:46 PM

Yeah, Jeb is out for this cycle completely. He's more likely to run for a different office than to be the hairdo's sidekick.

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United Earth
#113074: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:12:23 PM

Jeb had the most decent, respectable, adult run in the entire election. It's not his fault he was in a madhouse.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#113075: Feb 24th 2016 at 1:14:44 PM

[up]

What popped into my head is how funny (in the saddest way imaginable) it'd be if Trump went for Sanders as a VP.

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