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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Hmm, on the credit crisis issue.. this article discusses the policy failures of Paulson, Bernanke, and Geithner around the collapse of Lehman Brothers
and the nature of the risk that the bank had been taking on, which was beyond even its own standards and deliberately concealed from both the bank's own oversight personnel and from regulators.
Meh he was a brick wall that people kept banging their heads against, facts and well reasoned arguments meant nothing, there's a reason he found his way onto my personal "do not respond" list
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's kinda sad how people who argued against the default 'Democrat centre-left' consensus here are just assumed to be arguing in bad-faith, as though that worldview is so self-evident that nobody could possibly disagree if they examined the evidence correctly.
It's not just Nihlus's centrism/centre-right position either. Soban got banned, that other conservative poster with the D12 avatar seems to be keeping his head down, and Serocco and other far-left posters either got booted or left. This thread isn't a good place for people who don't fit a pretty narrow American political mould.
If that's what you want, I guess go for it, but don't be surprised the thread doesn't have a very diverse opinion set.
Schild und Schwert der Partei@Fighteer: Yep! It helps to remember that institutions are often composed of individuals, and the people on the trading floor at Lehman Brothers were often intentionally working against the interests of their company to build their own compensation.
Soban, for the record, was banned for having an opinion that actually is on the forbidden list. Bigoted opinions make up a large portion of the right-wing spectrum, hence a lot of right-wingers will be banned as bigots.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:12:03 AM by Ramidel
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What was Soban's opinion exactly? Also how did Nihlus "have it coming." Because he refused to change his mind when confronted with our glorious wisdom. He stuck to his line true, but so have many others, and they haven't been banned.
I believe it was because the economy under the previous guy was utter shit, not necessarily because it was socialist.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:13:03 AM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.Last word: Nihlus was not arguing in good faith. He was arguing from an extremist, fact-immune position that twisted evidence and ignored counterarguments. We don't want that here.
Serocco was also ban evading.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:14:32 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm pretty sure Serocco's full ban came in part due to attempts to subvert the ban by constantly P Ming people about OTC things, even when said P Ms were clearly unwanted. I can't remember every other case in detail but off the top of my head the only instance of someone getting a ban who wasn't either advocating violence of being an obnoxious arse was a long time ago and in a different thread. It says something that people seem unable to argue against the concencus without being an arse about it, it's managed perfectly well in other threads.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranYeah, I think Nihlus kind of had it coming, and that's coming from a conservative. He seemed kind of like a wonk.
I do think Achaemenid is at least partially correct, however.
Yeah, he kept P Ming me about my Conservative views.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:15:05 AM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Maybe this thread is built on the remains of a native thread graveyard? Could explain a lot.
Was Soban the one who upon a gay troper mentioning they were getting married said he's pray for them? Cus yeah that was a dick move.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:16:25 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's possible to be treated as if you're wrong and not become an arsehole, you've managed it and so have several others like Knit and at times Shinra and I belive occasionally myself.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranPinochet did some good stuff, don't get me wrong, but it falls in the same category as Hitler and the autobahn, doesn't nearly make up for all the targeted killings and state terror.
As for recess appointments, the Senate has essentially stopped taking recesses because the Supreme Court once ruled that you can be in session pro forma (e.g., in name only) and recess appointments taken will be invalid. The only time the Senate cannot be in session pro forma is when the Senate is dissolved pending the installation of a new Senate on inauguration day, which would lead Obama into "midnight judge" shenanigans, the kind of stuff we put an end to in the 1790s.
Again, better for him to just put his candidate out there and show the world how bad the Republicans are.
The issue with some of the far-left posters that disappeared, from my understanding, was that they tended to get very single-issue, like the near-hysteria that seems to grip some around here regarding TPP. This thread could probably? be more diverse, but the problem is less about crushing dissenting views than dissenters continuing conversations beyond the point of impasse.
Edit: Oh, so that's why Serocco stopped P Ming me. I wondered
edited 15th Feb '16 11:18:56 AM by Ogodei
@Eschaton: I think I'm fairly reasonable. I even got Serrocco to admit that I had a point.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:18:48 AM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Nihlus seemed to like to stick to one source validating everything he said and then refused to show any others if someone pointed out what was wrong with it. He didn't seem to be able to move past whatever he initially posted.
That being said, this place is sort of echochambery (which is partially while I usually just lurk), but it's not like on, (poorly) contrarian voice really fixes that.
Edit: Still not sure if I agree with banning him, though.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:20:23 AM by LSBK

Don't think that that's the case, actually. While the justice in question is on the bench, they're the justice.
Which raises the possibility of a Democratic filibuster at the confirmation hearing.
@style: I'm in agreement. Fighteer's style is a little harsh, and more to the point, I really don't like him intentionally trolling people to give himself an excuse to ban them.
edited 15th Feb '16 11:02:49 AM by Ramidel