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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm a bit worried about what this could mean for the TPP. From my understanding, it can't be brought up for a vote right now because Republicans in Congress are too scared of the ramifications of voting on it. Couldn't Obama use his nomination as political leverage to get the TPP passed? You know, like nominate an ultra-conservative?
Actually, according to wikipedia he can make a Recess Appointment when Senate is in Recess. It only lasts until the end of the next senate session before it needs to be confirmed in full.
Honesty, I can see Obama do that as final "Fuck You!" to the GOP if they are too asinine about it.
In December, when its save
....Obama isn't that stupid. That'd be like poisoning the well to get some water now.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:44:36 PM by 3of4
"You can reply to this Message!"Technically, yes, but it doesn't quite work like that. The GOP will just hold pro forma skeleton Senate sessions to prevent that from happening. Because why should government be able to function, right? Right.
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I could see him allowing a justice who is not ardently liberal, like will actually try to do what the Consituion says, instead of as Turgood Marshall said "do the right thing and let the law catch up." The Republicans could be fucked, but not as fucked if Obama say makes a recess appointment of a hard core liberal.
.....I'm going to make a new batch of popcorn. This'll be a wild ride.
I'm actually wondering if that isn't what breaks the situation. A moderate-slightly lefty Appointee who could be swayed by the argument gets appointed instead of Obama spending the next Winter sneaking the most radical leftist judge he can dredge up through.
edited 13th Feb '16 2:56:43 PM by 3of4
"You can reply to this Message!"I would be sad at Scalia's passing, but (a) his life was not a thing to celebrate, (b) his passing gives us a chance to have a 5-4 liberal majority in the Supreme Court. So, while Saint Peter is busily handing ol' Antonin his bus ticket to the Fires Below, I will sing "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" at the top of my lungs.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I think "celebrating" his death is in poor taste but unless you were actually his family or close friends there really is no other way to talk about it other than in political terms. And if that means you think good things can come from it what else are you supposed to do? Pretend you don't feel that way?
edited 13th Feb '16 3:14:53 PM by LSBK
Scalia was the kind of man decent people crossed the street to avoid. He was a stain on the soul of humanity. Good riddance.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Have you read the things Scalia said during his life? The man was a walking cartoon racist supervillain. I wouldn't pop champagne at his funeral, but I wouldn't mourn, either.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Scalia was said to be a very warm and amicable man personally, and there must have been something that made him and Notorious RBG friends. So I'm sure many of the people who knew him will be grieving, and my condolences to those people.
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That's probably the closest I can give to anything like a classy send off for the man.
For those of us who are news hounds and politics junkies, hold onto your butts, because shit has just gotten real.
edited 13th Feb '16 3:20:05 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |It's impossible not to be "partisan". This was a man who actively tried to make the lives of people like me worse. Do I need to start rolling out some of his lovely quotes?
I'm not gonna be popping champagne and dancing in the streets, but the sad fact is that this is a good thing – a man who tried to harm me and mine can no longer do so. That's on Scalia, not me.
edited 13th Feb '16 3:23:22 PM by majoraoftime
Exactly. One regards Scalia's passing the way one might a serial killer's. Yeah, there's kind of a generic sadness that a person died, but other than that...
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

As long as people aren't gloating about his death, i don't see the problem about talking about the implications it has for a better America.
Guy lived a long, full, successful life anyway, so it's not like his death was caused by anything untoward.