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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#111526: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:03:16 PM

Cruz IS worse than Trump, because he's actually smart and actually has a chance, however remote. Trump's been made enough of a laughingstock as is, but I don't think that enough people know about how toxic Cruz is outside of Washington.

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#111527: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:05:53 PM

Sometimes when I see people rooting for Trump or Cruz, Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy sets in and I almost hope they win so when they completely ruin everything and repeat everything Bush did, I can tell people "I told you so."

But that's petty.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:06:32 PM by Lennik

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#111528: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:08:09 PM

Eh, every single candidate is going to destroy the country one way or another, might as well pick the flavor of destruction you like best. tongue

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#111529: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:08:10 PM

[up][up] Nothing personal against you, but I DESPISE that line of thinking. I heard it a lot back in high school when a lot of smug faux-anarchists who wore trenchcoats talked a lot about how they just wanted to watch everything burn to the ground to see humankind's ~true nature~ or something like that.

Which isn't what you're saying, of course, but it bothers me all the same. America might not be great right now (is any country?), but it is worth protecting from the likes of Trump and Cruz. (Oh, you said that it was petty. My bad, didn't wanna go off on you.

[up] I dislike this line of thought, as well. If we look at politics like that, we'll all be even more miserable, and I for one don't need to be more miserable.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:09:27 PM by ILoveDogs

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#111530: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:11:30 PM

I would not lie and say that I have not occasionally shared that sentiment. "If these people are so determined to burn the world, let 'em. Serves us right for electing such assholes."

But then I remember that we'd be throwing away so much progress, so much that is good. Things move forward only if we make them; the idea that there is a "steady march of progress" is just plain wrong. There is only the progress that we make happen.

Think about all the undeserving people we would be condemning to suffer.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:14:39 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Nihlus1 Since: Jul, 2015
#111531: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:13:46 PM

Sometimes when I see people rooting for Trump or Cruz, Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy sets in and I almost hope they win so when they completely ruin everything
I think about that sometimes for Sanders supporters... but then I remember that in the long term his idiocy would also affect me and the people I like as well, not just them. "Cut off the noise to spite the face", and all that.

I would not lie and say that I have not occasionally shared that sentiment. "If these people are so determined to burn the world, let 'em. Serves us right for electing such assholes."
Also, this logic doesn't really hold up. Because people vote for what benefits them. If electing Trump or whoever actually benefits them, then it won't "serve them right", since they'll get what they want. If it doesn't benefit them (it won't, because populist economics are nonsense; unless of course all they wanted to do was spite someone), then they're only guilty of being ignorant, and potentially putting their own desires above other peoples'. Which almost everyone does when they vote.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:19:40 PM by Nihlus1

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Lost in Space
#111532: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:15:45 PM

[up] You and Lennik should go to a private chatroom. It would be rather amusing to Pass the Popcorn. However, that tone isn't helping.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:16:09 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#111533: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:20:27 PM

Paid internships are a thing, at least in theory. College students and recent grads pass on blurry photographs and accounts of the time some cousin's neighbor's coworker totally saw one, they swear.

To be fair, that pervert mutt deserved the kinkshaming.

Nihlus1 Since: Jul, 2015
#111534: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:21:02 PM

She also stole my wallet. >:(

edited 9th Feb '16 8:21:25 PM by Nihlus1

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#111535: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:22:36 PM

[up][up][up], [up]x4 Is there some feud I'm involved in that I don't know about?

But in all seriousness, I think it's a normal reaction to momentarily have when you're constantly watching people root for candidates who have said truly awful things about certain groups of Americans, and you're so far to the other side of that issue that you just think everyone else is out of their minds to be willing to vote for the candidate you think is abhorrent.

But as I said, it's momentary, and after just a moment it sets in that the candidate in question winning would cause great harm to other people, and you remember they don't deserve to be hurt by a policy just because you're frustrated. So of course I don't actually believe that, ideologically, but that sentiment is there.

edited 9th Feb '16 8:23:27 PM by Lennik

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#111536: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:25:24 PM

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is returning back to New Jersey to “take a deep breath” and reevaluate things after seeing the final results tonight.

So you can probably expect him to drop out by the end of the week.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#111537: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:27:55 PM

Christ Christie should drop out. He's become a much more hostile ideologue in recent years. Remember when he shook Obama's hand in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy and refused to play partisan politics? Contrast that with all the trash he's talked about the president since entering the race. Politics changes people for the worse.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#111538: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:28:07 PM

Aww, but then Christie will have to cancel his appearances in South Carolina and Nevada. All that scheduling and devotion from his campaign staff wasted. /sigh

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#111539: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:30:30 PM

I'll miss him trolling Rubio, but what he did on Saturday seems to have done its job on Rubio so just as well....

SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#111540: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:33:12 PM

Why are people worrying so much about South Carolina? The Nevada caucuses come first, so there's plenty of time for either Sanders or Clinton to head into SC with more momentum.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#111541: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:36:30 PM

Hmmmmf...it looks like the Establishment is losing ground very quickly. This is a bit upsetting.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#111542: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:49:45 PM

Paid internships are a thing, at least in theory. College students and recent grads pass on blurry photographs and accounts of the time some cousin's neighbor's coworker totally saw one, they swear.

Depends a lot on your field. In computer science, internships are usually well paid.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#111543: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:49:47 PM

Why are people worrying so much about South Carolina? The Nevada caucuses come first, so there's plenty of time for either Sanders or Clinton to head into SC with more momentum.
South Carolina is seen as the "Testing ground" for dealing with the minority voters, at least for Democrats, due to its heavy African American populace.

Polling puts Sanders as being at a disadvantage there and the media will rip him to shreds if he doesn't do something to win over minority voters.

On the other hand, he does still poll pretty well with young Hispanic and African American voters (not as nearly well as with young Whites, but he still leads Hillary in that area.)

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#111544: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:51:00 PM

Christie: He's running on the platform that, because he's really good at governing New Jersey like a mob boss, he'd do a good job as President.
Isn't this basically how Nixon ran the country as President?
X is probably the best bet, even though he'd be terrible as President.
I'm pretty sure the second half of that statement applies to every Republican running.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#111545: Feb 9th 2016 at 9:14:04 PM

[up][up]Nevada is 11 days away; South Carolina 18. Since Sanders splits the Latino vote with Clinton and carries 1/3 the black vote, I think there's plenty of time to make headway.

Coming within 20 points of Clinton in South Carolina would be enough to continue the campaign.

edited 9th Feb '16 9:14:45 PM by SolipsistOwl

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#111546: Feb 9th 2016 at 10:03:49 PM

Sanders will keep going until he runs out of cash (unlikely) or is mathematically defeated.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#111547: Feb 10th 2016 at 12:56:27 AM

[up]Mathematically defeated?

Alright, someone call Sanders. I'm challenging him to a game of 24!

Leviticus 19:34
Nihlus1 Since: Jul, 2015
#111548: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:45:08 AM

"Mathematically defeated"? Well, there is that time he got called out for proposing that his plan would make the US save more on prescription drugs than the country actually spends in total.

FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Field Marshal of Cracked
#111549: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:48:45 AM

I find it strange people are saying it's financially infeasible for the US to convert to s single payer health care system, every other country in the west uses it

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#111550: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:59:06 AM

We're exceptional, ain't you heard?


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