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Nihlus1 Since: Jul, 2015
#111376: Feb 8th 2016 at 8:36:18 PM

Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says
This was about a year ago in Internet Time, but I feel like I should point out something:
Those are just a few of the things that would happen if Bernie Sanders became president and his ambitious economic program were put into effect, according to an analysis given exclusively to CNN Money.The first comprehensive look at the impact of all of Sanders' spending and tax proposals on the economy was done by Gerald Friedman, a University of Massachusetts Amherst economics professor.
I was wondering why this guy was advocating for a plan that even hardcore liberals like the Brooking Institute think is nonsense. At first I just thought he was like the 3% of scientists who think global warming is a myth ("Global warming is a myth, hundreds of scientists say"). But he's not just a random professor.

He has worked with Sanders before.

The Sanders camp's real argument is that, all things considered, the average family would save money.

They commissioned Gerald Friedman — an economist at the University of Massachusetts who previously analyzed Rep. John Conyers's (D-MI) very similar single-payer bill, HR 676 — to analyze how his plan would affect a typical household. Friedman's analysis can be found here.

Yes, he's the guy that was hired to "analyze" the healthcare plan. The same one that had a gigantic hole where $1.1 trillion was supposed to be. The same one that involved saving more money on prescription drugs than the US spends in total. Something tells me that he's not very good at this "analysis" thing.

Just a head's up.

edited 8th Feb '16 8:40:54 PM by Nihlus1

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#111377: Feb 8th 2016 at 8:49:21 PM

[up][up][up]Wait? Stop pretending? I thought they were openly defying the Pres from the get go.

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United Earth
#111378: Feb 9th 2016 at 1:23:05 AM

Instead of helping Flint, Michigan republicans pass a SODOMY LAW.

For fuck's sake!

edited 9th Feb '16 1:23:34 AM by TheHandle

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#111379: Feb 9th 2016 at 3:46:25 AM

Isn't that some weird legal mechanism to criminalize buggering dogs?

Schild und Schwert der Partei
LMage Since: May, 2011
#111380: Feb 9th 2016 at 3:59:23 AM

For what it's worth, Sodomy laws are out-right unenforceable. It's such a specific act that both being informed it's happening and taking action to arrest the parties would almost certainly hit nation-wide news.

And when it comes to it Federal Law > State Law.

edited 9th Feb '16 4:19:19 AM by LMage

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Student of Story
#111381: Feb 9th 2016 at 4:11:26 AM

[up][up][up] # Republican Priorities # Keep government small enough to fit in your bedroom

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
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#111383: Feb 9th 2016 at 4:52:29 AM

The only thing that could accomplish is being an intentional poison pill to get the entire law struck down in the courts.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#111384: Feb 9th 2016 at 6:11:07 AM

So the people of Flint can't even use the water as lube now?

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#111385: Feb 9th 2016 at 7:43:48 AM

[up] Republicans: "We don't care what's in the pipe, only where you put it." Seriously, can't we just assign a guy to each politcian whose only job is to dope-slap them if they try to do something stupid?

edited 9th Feb '16 7:44:20 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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#111386: Feb 9th 2016 at 7:46:05 AM

[up] The poor guy assigned to Trump will end up breaking his arm.

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#111387: Feb 9th 2016 at 7:46:44 AM

[up]you want... BULLSHIT MAN!

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edited 9th Feb '16 7:48:36 AM by FieldMarshalFry

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#111388: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:43:56 AM

Did Youtube embedding break again?

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#111389: Feb 9th 2016 at 8:45:58 AM

ah bollocks, looks it

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#111390: Feb 9th 2016 at 9:59:55 AM

To get back to how religion and politics interact, I don't think the nonreligious are growing in appreciable levels in the United States. A good number of Democrats are actually conservative religious who reject the Republicans for different reasons than religion. For example, many Mexican-Americans are devout Roman Catholics and many Arab-Americans are devout Muslims, but they certainly aren't going to side with the Republicans given that party's expressed desires in regards to Mexicans and Muslims. Likewise, African-Americans, both religious and nonreligious; conservative and liberal, overwhelmingly support the Democrats as well for a similar reason.

In reality, religion doesn't play all that big of a factor in voting compared to what the political party can do for the particular voter's primary issues.

edited 9th Feb '16 10:01:14 AM by GameGuruGG

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#111391: Feb 9th 2016 at 10:16:03 AM

Looks like you have a third party candidate running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw

Canadatongue

edited 9th Feb '16 10:16:37 AM by Rationalinsanity

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Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#111392: Feb 9th 2016 at 10:27:22 AM

On the Michigan bill, I'm just gonna copy what I said in Yack Fest's LGBT thread:

The bill in question (SB 219) is against animal cruelty, the whole "banning anal" thing comes from it's use of the existing sodomy law (which already includes the "with mankind or with any animal" line) in Michigan's penal code (MCL 750.158. Part of the bill amends 750.158 with clearer wording and adds subsection 2:

AS PART OF THE SENTENCE FOR A VIOLATION OF SUBSECTION (1),
6 THE COURT SHALL, AS A CONDITION OF PROBATION, ORDER THE PERSON
7 CONVICTED NOT TO OWN OR POSSESS AN ANIMAL FOR A PERIOD OF AT LEAST
8 5 YEARS AFTER THE DATE OF SENTENCING OR THE DATE OF RELEASE FROM
9 INCARCERATION, WHICHEVER IS LATER, AND MAY ORDER PERMANENT
10 RELINQUISHMENT OF ANIMAL OWNERSHIP.

Obviously, the "with mankind" part of 750.158 is unenforceable per Lawrence v. Texas.

Oh and the bill passed the Michigan Senate, but still has to get through the state's House.

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#111393: Feb 9th 2016 at 10:39:54 AM

Interesting discussion about the primary with statewide journalists who actually know NH, as opposed to the D.C. echo chamber.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign says that she’s losing New Hampshire because Bernie Sanders, being from neighboring Vermont, is a “favorite son” in the state. But according to reporters and editors at four of the state’s top news outlets, that’s “a load of crock” and “would make most New Hampshire stomachs turn.” In fact, most New Hampshirites probably didn’t know who Bernie Sanders was until he launched his presidential campaign. And bobcat-killing and the opiate epidemic are more likely to be at the top of their list of concerns than, say, immigration.

Those are just a few of things the pundits and candidates are getting wrong about New Hampshire as we head into its first-in-the-nation primary on Tuesday. In a roundtable interview moderated by Politico’s senior politics editor Charlie Mahtesian, five of the journalists who follow New Hampshire politics most closely revealed more about what's really going on on-the-ground in the Granite State and what we in Washington are missing.

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#111394: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:04:34 PM

Middle America is putting itself back together. Goddam hicks are actually trying to make the best of a bad situation. Backwards imbeciles. They should learn from enlightened people like us and bitch about everything on the internet[lol] An interesting fact, while most people see the country itself has headed for the shitter, they are more optimistic about their local situation.

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#111395: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:31:39 PM

A federal judge told the State Department to speed up the final release of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails, saying the voting public has an interest in seeing them as the primaries are underway.

Judge Rudolph Contreras said the government is taking an “unreasonably long” time processing the messages and is already more than a week overdue on making them all public — and said he didn’t like being told speeding up could hurt national security.

The State Department says there are still some 3,700 messages to be released, and it has asked for a monthlong extension beyond the Jan. 29 deadline Judge Contreras initially set.

The department said it broke the deadline because it forgot about some 4,000 messages that needed to be reviewed for classified or private information by other agencies. Those agencies are processing the messages and some have been finished, but Judge Contreras said the department needs to explain by the end of this week how it bungled the operation so badly.

The judge said he will order at least some emails to be released by Feb. 18, and showed little patience with the department’s delays.

“To state the obvious, these documents have a lot of interest and the timing is important,” Judge Contreras said.

Judge orders State Dept. to speed up Clinton emails: ‘Unreasonably long’

Ohio Gov. John Kasich is breaking from the crowded field of GOP presidential hopefuls and could be in position to score a campaign-resuscitating second-place finish in New Hampshire, a late poll revealed Tuesday morning.

Donald Trump continued to hold his commanding lead with 33 percent support of likely GOP voters in the Granite State, American Research Group pollsters said.

But the all-important runner-up race appeared to be leaning just a bit toward Kasich at 17 percent, ahead of Marco Rubio at 14 percent, Iowa winner Ted Cruz with 10 percent, Jeb Bush at 9 percent and Chris Christie at 8 percent.

Kasich breaking out of crowded GOP field, poll says

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A nice butterfly
#111396: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:33:18 PM

Kasich is the "not quite so insane" GOP dude, right?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#111397: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:36:11 PM

Yes. Outside of abortion and a few other 'social' issues, he's fairly moderate. He should be the running-mate to Jim Webb.

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#111398: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:42:45 PM

Kasich is not moderate. He only looks like it compared to the rest of the field. Besides being a strong anti-abortionist, he is a hardcore goldbug, believing in a fixed-money system that would completely break our economy.

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#111399: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:44:17 PM

What is it with people and the gold thing?

Oh really when?
SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#111400: Feb 9th 2016 at 12:46:21 PM

[up][up]Most people wouldn't consider Webb 'moderate' either. They're much more moderate than the other candidates in their parties, and would do well for their respective parties in the '80s.

edited 9th Feb '16 12:47:02 PM by SolipsistOwl


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